Cisco Wireless :: 5508 - Mobility / Roaming And Web Authentication?
Nov 27, 2011
I have two 5508, no anchor, only one SSID with internal web authentication using radius server.Under "Configuring Mobility Groups", Cisco guide says: "If a client roams in web authentication state, the client is considered as a new client on another controller instead of considering it as a mobile client".
I understand that if a client that has already autheticated via web roams between two LAPs that are associated with different WLCs, it has to reathenticate.
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Aug 15, 2012
I have to WLC's a 4402 and 5508 in a mobilty group. they are both running 7.0.116.0. They are configured to use Web Authentication. We are having complaints that Users are having to re-authenticate when moving around the office. My theory is they are moving from one WLC to the other and then requiring to re-authenticate.
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Apr 29, 2013
I have a device manufacture there are requesting the following change on a customer's WLC 5508.
-config advanced eap identity-request-timeout 60
-config advanced eap request-timeout 60
I have studied many guides but I can't find out if there is a down-side to setting the timeout this high.Could it result in slow roaming or re-authentication if there is a connection error? The customer have large areas with high client density and some outdoor areas with low client density.
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Aug 2, 2012
I have three Autonomous AP´s in a small office running voice applications, all of them are connected to the same infrastructure switch and they have same configuration, voice Vlan is configure to open authentication. I have two models of AP 1252 and 1262 and I paste Radio configuration below.
First issue: During calls users are facing problems when roaming between AP´s, and eventually calls are dropped.
Second issue: Sometimes one of these AP´s(1252) lose all transmit signal and when return I got authentication error on log.
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Sep 1, 2012
1) Is it possible for 2 WLCs installed in seperate data centres with L3 seperation to be joined in a mobility group? We will have aps in the branch offices split between controllers so we want to make sure roaming work ok. Also all guest access should be anchored to data centre 2.
2) in flexconnect local switching mode, do I need to create flexconnect groups if I'm only using radius servers in the data centre with no requirement to use local radius as a backup?
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Nov 30, 2011
I recently add a second CT5508 to the network, but when I tried to add the first 5508 to the mobilty group I received a message like this:
"error in creating member"
I've tried different mobility names, via GUI, via CLI and always the same error.
I've verified twice or more than twice connectivity issues or any error on the entering the MAC and IP of the controllers, everything is fine.
I'm using version 7.0.116.0
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Jul 21, 2011
I have more different client networks with one ssid, when a client is in another network gets an ip it still from the old network.
How can I to the wlc change this so he gets one right address. I have a Cisco WLC 5508 and 1262/1252 Access point
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Feb 12, 2013
I have an issue where I have an AP in one room and another in another.When I walk from one room to the other, I lose signal but manages to see the SSID and join.But, I cannot seem to surf the Internet, I have to manually disconnect and reconnect. Normal wireless routers I reconnect seamlessly without any manual disconnect & reconnect.Currently using cisco 5508 and ap2600.
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Apr 7, 2011
Currently have a 5508 in the lab and testing 4 AP's with it. Eventually there will be 18 AP's spread thru out different floor in our building.
So far access is working fine using WPA, 802.1x and the client configured to use windows logon credentials..But it doesn't seem to automatically transfer between access points.
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Aug 7, 2012
After upgrading my 5508s to 7.2.110.0, they are reporting mobility data path errors to one of my WiSMs running 7.0.235.0.
I get these messages on the 5508s reporting that it can't send a ping to the affected WiSM:
*ethoipSocketTask: Aug 08 21:15:41.175: %ETHOIP-3-PKT_RECV_ERROR: ethoip.c:341 ethoipSocketTask: ethoipRecvPkt returned error
*ethoipSocketTask: Aug 08 21:15:41.175: %ETHOIP-3-PING_RESPONSE_TX_FAILED: ethoip_ping.c:312 Failed to tx a ping response to <ip address>, rc=5
But maybe there is another clue because I also see in the same log these errors referencing the same WiSM:
*bcastReceiveTask: Aug 08 21:15:45.310: %LOG-1-Q_IND: mm_dir.c:1969 Failed to recreate the SSH Rule for <ip address>.
*mmSSHPeerRegister: Aug 08 21:15:44.829: %MM-1-SSHRULE_CREATE_FAILED: mm_dir.c:1969 Failed to recreate the SSH Rule for <ip address>.
Why is the controller trying to SSH to another controller? Was some SSH related feature added to 7.2 that has been accidentally enabled?
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Jan 23, 2012
for some reason our wlan-controllers were build up to be standalone instead of beeing one mobility-group. I would like to change this in order to use all features of HA.
let me describe our scenario: two WLCs 5508 running SW ver. 6
- same subnet
- both are running in master controller mode
- different hostnames, ip-addresses, etc
- all settings for WLANs and AP-groups (exept the APs themselves in these groups) are the same
- in total at this moment we are running around 100 LAPs configured one half on WLC#1, the other half on WLC#2
I don't know exactly why, but when that setting was installed, someone already configuredHA for each accesspoint... e.g.:
- AP#1 primary WLC#1, secondary WLC#2
- AP#2 primary WLC#2, secondary WLC#1 but without WLC#2 knowing the configuration for AP#1 it makes no sense, correct?
so my question is: how should I do the migration in the best way?
is it easy as:
- disabling master controller mode on WLC#2
- configuring both WLCs into one mobility group
--> WLCs are negotiating their configurations for the APs
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Feb 4, 2013
I have Cisco Wireless Lan Controller 5508 with 35 (3600 Series Access Points. Do i need to purchase Mobility Service Engine for this or no need? Do i need WCS server for this or no need?
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Apr 7, 2013
I have a 4400 and a 5508 WLC in the same location We want to be able to roam between ap joined to both the 4400 and the 5508 using only one ssid
Do I only need to create a mobility group and add both WLC then create only one WLAN on one of the controllers and it will be shared across bot WLC.
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May 27, 2013
I am having some troubles with client roaming on a 5508 controller running firmware 7.3.101.0. As soon as a client roams outside the range of an AP they lose data flow and do not seem to transition to another AP for about 1 minute.This is a small network with 6 x AIRCAP3502E-N-K9 AP's (running in H-REAP mode) on the same floor and clients are a mix of HP notebooks, Mac Books, iMacs, iPads and iPhones. There are several seperate SSID's setup and the problem occurs on all. All are WPA2/AES with either a PSK or 802.1X. Both 2.4GHz and 5GHz radios are enabled with auto power and channel selection.
I have tried changing the roaming settings from default and also playing with the AP power settings to no avail.Is this normal behaviour or is there something I can do to improve the reconnection speed?
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May 22, 2012
I am running a WiFi network built on Cisco 1262 APs and Cisco WLC 5508. My APs broadcast two SSIDs, let call them "WiFi_Pay" and "WiFi_Free". I have a problem: when users migrate from "WiFi_Pay" to "WiFi_Free" (not moving, connecting to the same AP), the connection fails. If they try for second time, it is always successful. My task is to ensure that such migrations run smoothly and be successful from the first attempt.
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Jul 7, 2011
I have 2 5508 controllers in a mobility group. Any good way to keep the configuration between the 2 controllers synched up?
I thought about copying the config from my primary controller to the secondary controller, but I would think there is a more elegant way to make this happen.
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Jun 3, 2013
Since two months they work full time with the new Dutch Electronic Patient Dossier.We installed 3 Cisco 5508 controllers, version 7.0.230.0 last year on a HP-switched network on a layer 2 mobility domain.Cisco 1041 AP are
The personnel works woth thin clients url... The one with the double antenna.This client has a Broadcom BCM943228HM4L 802.11 a.b.g.n (2x2) adapter.
On the client they have a connected RDP session to a server with the documents.Now they are walking from one patient to another patient. The problem they experience is a very late roaming. At the beginning of the corridor, the client will associate, but is going to roam at the end of the corridor. We installed 4 AP's on each corridor, so they signal is very well, maybe to well?
I disabled client loadbalancing and band select.The lowest data rates are also disabled. Mandatory begins at 12 Mbps. I can increase this to 18 Mbps.These clients work with PSK, with both methods (WPA-TKIP and WPA2-AES) enabled.We did this because of many old and new clients.
The customer tried to find out the problem with a smartphone, same issue. Very late roaming.I can upgrade the WLC to 7.0.240.0. The only problem I have is the WCS. When upgrading to 7.2 and higher I need to have NCS.
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Jun 26, 2012
Is there any additional configuration to be done on the 5508 WLC for Wireless Laptop / Voice Roaming? I tested with Wireless IP Phone and found some blankness in voice , whereas i have other access point nearby , which wasn't switching over easily .
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Apr 23, 2012
I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to configure in one site a wireless setup that goes like this:
One WLC (5508), multiple LAP's in H-REAP mode.
AP's will be splitted in multiple VLAN's belonging to different departments but with the same SSID.Each VLAN will have it's own DHCP scope. All AP's are located in the same site and I need to know if it is possible to roam between AP's that belong to different departments?
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May 6, 2012
How do Mobility Groups work with internal DHCP scopes on a WLC 5508?We have a WLC 5508 with two internal DHCP scopes which redirect to captive portals for authentication. I am looking at putting in a second WLC in a mobility group setup to provide some WLC redundancy. The LWAPs will be setup so that every second AP is on the has the second WLC as its primary controller. If the primary WLC fails we want the secondary to be able to take over and issue IP's from the internal scope. How do you set this up with a Mobility group so the second WLC does not act as a rouge DHCP server while the primary WLC is still active?
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Feb 1, 2012
I am setting up officeexten. I have placed the officeextend wlc in the dmz with an mgmt ip of 192.168.10.2. in the process of anchoring this to the internal wlc. Also the ip on the firewall for this interface is 192.168.10.1
1. does the mobility group need to match the same on the internal wlc ?
2. Now do i need a NAT transnational on the firewall for the external WAN ip (AP primed address say 66.10.10.10) to NAT back to 192.168.10.2 ?
3. The 5508 WLC is running on ver6.0.199.4 (license level base) - will this support office extend?
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Feb 14, 2013
We are in a warehouse type setting and have data centers on each side of warehouse with 5508 WLC's in each data center. Each side is on its own subnet with routing in between and a different set of SSID's for each set of WLC’s. Are goal is to have the ability to failover in the event that if one data center goes down AP’s will move to the controllers in the other DC and the clients will still be able to operate.
Our thought was to implement mobility groups between the controllers. While I saw documentation on setting this up when the controllers are on the same vlan, I didnt see any setup config when controllers are in different vlans. So I am wondering if mobility groups are even an option for what we want to accomplish. For the most part clients stay on their respected sides of the warehouse and so we are not necessarily needing roaming for clients between controllers in DC1 and DC2. But that does raise another question in that we do have a planned voice wlan that we would like to have the ability to roam between each side of the warehouse. But we have seen ip issues with this. In the past we have had both SSID's setup on each side and ran to issues with clients not renewing their IP address when moving to the controllers on the different subnets.
Can we setup mobility groups between controllers on different vlans/subnets? For failover purposes will mobility groups assist in our setup with 2 DC’s and different subnets/vlans? If the answer is yes we can setup mobility groups between different subnets, is there a way to setup the SSID's on all controllers and have the ability for clients to roam and renew their IP’s when moving to a different controller on a different subnet?
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Mar 12, 2013
We've recently boughten new equipment to upgrade/replace some of our aging wireless hardware. We're moving to a pair of 5508 controllers and changing over to ACS 5.4. Currently we're just doing MAC filtering with ACS 4.2 and local users. I'd like to move most of our SSIDs to some type of AD authentication. Are there any all encompassing guides that layout the design behind that? So far I haven't had much luck finding one!
Also, would it be possible to maintain some of the local ACS users/MAC filtering? We have some mechanical equipment that connects to our network (separate SSID) but cannot join a domain.
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Jan 7, 2013
I having some troubles with Web Authentication in a WLC 5508 version 7.2 to make authentication with the corporative phones, ANDROID GingerBread 2.3.6 model SAMSUNG GT-S7500L. When I try to connect to the VisitorsWirelessLAN in order to authenticate with web authentication the page never comes, in fact the phone never gets the IP. I have an iPhone and I have not problems, I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 with ICS 4.0.1 and works perfect, is only with gingerbread
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Aug 3, 2011
I've set up several local network users (Security > Local Net Users) on the WLC (5508 running 7.0.98.0). Whenever I try to connect with one of these user accounts (I'm testing this out for now), the attempt is unsuccessful and I see an "AAA Authentication Failure for UserName: xxxxxxx User Type: WLAN USER" in the Trap Log. I thought that after trying to authenticate through a RADIUS server, the local user database would be polled and then a user account in that database would be able to authenticate.
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Jun 9, 2012
Can we configure the wireless controller 5508 to authenticate the clients using both of MAC address Filtering (layer 2 security) and Web authentication (layer 3 security). and what is the difference between (Web policy --> authentication) and (Web policy --> on MAC filter failure)
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Sep 11, 2012
We just got a new 5508 wireless controller and the question we have is : can we get wireless users to authenticate to an Active Directory server to get access to the network? I know we can get the authentication done with an RSA server, but what about plain AD?
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May 9, 2012
We are using WLC-5508 in our corporate. For authenication we have implemented ACS with LDAP configured as external user database. We can able to get authenicated for Web based authenication. When it is configured for EAP-FAST, authenitication is not happening.
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Jul 18, 2012
From what I've read, it doesn't seem possible to use Web Authentication and obtain encryption unless using a Radius server.
I have a client asking for web auth, encryption, and ldap connection to their AD servers.
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Mar 18, 2013
I'm working on a project where a wi-fi client is tracked and located using RADIUS authentication requests. The problem I'm running into is that the WLC (5508) sends an RADIUS authentication request to my freeradiusd, which is ok so far, but if the client roams to another accesspoint (3602AG, 1131AG, 1252AG), the WLC does not send a further RADIUS auth. request - and the client is allowed to connect to the next ap.Is there an option like RADIUS-cache which I can disable, so that the WLC sends everytime an authentication request when a client tries to connect to an ap or roams from one ap to another one?
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Feb 16, 2012
I am setting up a WIFI network with a Cisco 5508 controller. I want to configure a first WIFI network (WIFI1) that will authenticate my business laptop based on the AD computer accounts and will access my corporate network.I want to setup a second WIFI network (WIFI2) that will authenticate my phones and tablets devices with AD user accounts and will be on a separate vlan with only access to the Internet.I created 2 policies on the Radius server : one that authenticate computers coming from wireless and a second one authenticating users coming from wireless.
if a user manually creates the WIFI1 network on his phone and enter his AD username, he is going to have access to the corporate network. I would like to be able to say that when a request is coming from WIFI1, only the policy for authenticating wireless devices with computer accounts will apply and the second policy authenticating user wouldn't apply.
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Jan 15, 2013
I have looked through the forum and think that I have found the answer to my question but I just need confirmation of my thoughts. We are using a 5508 W LAN controller running software ver 7.2.110.0 and LAP 1142n AP's.
What I would like to do is to configure multiple guest W LAN for each of our regional offices. Each of these W LAN needs to be configured with a Web Authentication page relevant to the office location. My question is this, can I have a Web Authentication page for each location or just 2, the default internal page and 1 customized page?
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Oct 19, 2011
I have a problem with a customer of mine. We have deployed two new WLC5508 running r7.0.116.0 and AP1142s, also WCS with r7.0.172. When we setup a "Guest Access" we ran into trouble.The problem is that we can associate to the SSID/AP and get an ip-adress. When we open the web- browser we do not get redirected to the virtual interface but instead the _hostname_ of the WLC. Like this: url...
I we manually replace "cisco6a19c4" with 1.1.1.1 it works as it should, the login page appears, we login and can access the internet.We have tested and disabled web-auth on the ssid an everything works, we can directly go out on the internet, DNS works without any problems. [code]Guest network (VLAN) is transfered from WLC via the trunk to the Cat4503 and then connected on a access-port to a separate broadband-router, then to the inetrnet.DHCP to guest-users from separate broadband-router which is def gwy and "DNS".On the virtual interfaces no hostname is configured.
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