Cisco Switching/Routing :: 3750X - Valid Frames / Too Large
Aug 20, 2012
We have a brand new 2 x 3750-X stack running 15.0(1)SE3 with C3KX-NM-10Gs installed in each switch. An HP C-Class server enclosure with Virtual Connect Flex-10 modules is connected to each of the 10G ports using twin ax cables and they seem to behave OK apart from some random packet drop which appears to be within the enclosure and not without.
However, when we were investigating this, we found a little oddity ... even though we have jumbo frame support enabled on the 3750-Xs, we are getting a significant "Valid frames, too large" received count on the interface, and a "Too large" transmitted count. I've looked around and can't find a definitive reason for this count to go up - it doesn't seem to be a jumbo frames thing, more an unexpected-additional-field-in-a-header type thing, like when you have a V LAN tag in a DTP frame. Any thoughts as to why I might be getting these from a new server enclosure?
SW-STACK-CORE-3750X#sho int t2/1/1 controller
TenGigabitEthernet2/1/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected) Hardware is Ten Gigabit Ethernet, address is a44c.116e.55b5 (bia a44c.116e.55b5) [ code]....
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Dec 8, 2012
I've to enable it on 3750 and nexus 7K switches. what are the steps involved? can we enable jumbo frame per port instead of enabling globally? i.e. we will only have few ports that will be using jumbo frames, rest of the ports will be using default 1500 MTU size.
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Apr 16, 2013
We have a requirement to send span traffic to a destination port for monitoring purposes on two 5000s with some 2000 fex boxes attached.
Some of the servers are making use of frames larger than 1500. we have not changed any mtu configuration on the 5000 since installation, and I can see the policy maps is still on 1500.
My first assumption would be that frames larger than 1500 will not be dropped, but it seemingly not (see below). is there a reason why the switch would forward jumbo frames? Also, is there a limitation on MTU for span traffic? There is a MTU command under the span session, but the maximum is 1518. From what I can read the frame will be truncated if it exceeds this. Does that mean the fragments will be dropped?
RX
7495685816 unicast packets 249 multicast packets 147899 broadcast packets
7495833963 input packets 1426823388087 bytes
1608134 jumbo packets 0 storm suppression bytes
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Jul 5, 2012
I believe i've enable jumbo frames on our Nexus 7010, one in each data-centre.
system jumbomtu 9216. Also on the interfaces mtu 9216. And can see MTU 9216 bytes, BW 20000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec on the port-channel between them. Though when i ping between vlans at each site with large packets i get 30% drops and if i set the DF bit in IP header to yes - 100% loss.
8798 bytes from 10.200.12.2: icmp_seq=19 ttl=254 time=8.024 ms --- 10.200.12.2 ping statistics ---20 packets transmitted, 14 packets received, 30.00% packet loss
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I understand that jumbo frames need to be enabled end-to-end. I have two ESX hosts connected at each site. I want to enable jumbo frames for those ports, but what if not all host on the ESX are using jumbo frames, will I have drops and connection failures? So if i have two sites, each with a 6509 connected via a trunk and need to enable jumbo frames for a vlan between the sites how do I accomplish this?If I enable jumbo frames on the trunk link how does that impact other traffic between the sites?
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I have a Cisco Nexus 3064 that I am using as part of a flat network for the Lab. I have 30 Virtualization Servers(MS HyperV and VMware vSphere) connected to this switch and I want to enable jumbo frames. The Virtualization Servers are able to ping the local VM's using 8K bytes. However I am unable to ping from server to server using 8K bytes. I have configuration (in abbreviation). All the servers are in the same network which I configured as L2 ports with the "switchport" command. However, the interface "MTU" command is unavailable in L2 mode. I am only able to get the interface "MTU" command only in L3 mode with the "no switchport" command on the interface.
# int eth1/2-45
# no switchport
# mtu 9216
# no shut
I can ping the servers with less than 1500 bytes, but anything larger fails.
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Mar 24, 2012
According to this Cisco URL jumbo frames should be put into play by changing default ethernet system class.
Recommended configuration:
!--- You can enable the Jumbo MTU
!--- for the whole switch by setting the MTU
!--- to its maximum size (9216 bytes) in
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Dec 2, 2012
I have a Cisco Catalyst 3100 blade in a Dell server chassis that is trunked to a 6509.
When doing a protocol capture, I see large frames being sent from one of the servers in the chassis.
Example:
TCP:[Continuation to #1701] [Bad CheckSum]Flags=...AP..., SrcPort=HTTP(80), DstPort=2667, PayloadLen=2831, Seq=1489611217 - 1489614048, Ack=1719592331, Win=65535
I see lengths up to 6900+ bites coming from the server.
The switch has the global MTU set to 1500
system mtu routing 1500
and I can't seem to set this at the interface level. The server is configured to send 1500 length frames. Why am I seeing these jumbos? (the server is Windows 2003)
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Since it seems I can only enable Jumbo frames on the entire switch (current standard frame size is 1500 and jumbo is also 1500), when I enable it what kind of possible negative impact could this have on my trunked ports as well as my host connections? I've read mixed reviews of users with iSCSI SAN devices seeing terrible performance when enabling jumbo frames so I'm apprehensive about enabling them on an existing network.
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policy-map type network-qos jumbo
class type network-qos class-default
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I am not clear how I can extend this principle to one VLAN only.
Also, I am aware of a posting [URL], that shows some pitfalls of implementing jumbo frames in a VPC configuration. Pretty well all my connections are VPC, including all the FEXes, which are all dual-homed. In many cases, the VPC extends through to the servers so that the servers run port.channels across two FEXes. I am unclear whether the pitfalls are still valid, or whether I have to wait until my next maintenance slot (6 months away) to implement jumbo frames. Can jumbo frames be implement safely on the fly? How does enabling jumbo frames fit in with "conf sync" mode?
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From my understanding is the mtu is set on the interface therefore if I set the mtu on the L2 link ports on both sites to 9000 then would this cause a problem for the 1500?
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I attempted to enable jumbo frames on a Nexus 5010 (NX-OS version 4.2(1)N1(1)). I created the policy map below and lost access to the switch.
policy-map type network-qos jumbo
class type network-qos class-default
mtu 9216
After recovery I see from the logs that all vlans and interface were suspended. I've attempted to look for reasons for a compatibility issue but I am unable to find what is checked and what could have been incompatible. The other troubling thing is the adjacent switch suspended its interfaces too but no change was done there. What I need to look out for so that this does not happen again?
2011 Nov 22 23:43:09 phx-ipcg1dwfcma %ETHPORT-3-IF_ERROR_VLANS_SUSPENDED: VLANs 1,10,601 on Interface port-channel1 are being suspen
ded. (Reason: QoSMgr Network QoS configuration incompatible)
2011 Nov 22 23:43:09 phx-ipcg1dwfcma %ETHPORT-5-IF_TRUNK_DOWN: Interface port-channel1, vlan 1,10,601 down
2011 Nov 22 23:43:09 phx-ipcg1dwfcma %ETHPORT-3-IF_ERROR_VLANS_SUSPENDED: VLANs 10 on Interface port-channel508 are being suspended.
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[DBNETLIB][Connection Write (send()).]General network error. Check your network documentation
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The config is as follows:
Session 2
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Type : Local Session
Source VLANs :
RX Only : 500
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