Cisco Switching/Routing :: Catalyst 4507r / Queue Usage - QOS - Total Output Drops?
Jan 14, 2013
We're having kind of a problem with our Catalyst 4507r switches. If we do a "show interface" command we're getting a lot of "Total output drops" on some of our interfaces. It seems to be most of the time on the same vlan.I was wondering if it has got something to do with QOS or queue selection As we don't have any QOS markings configured, is it possible that all traffic is using only one of the four tx queue's?
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Apr 25, 2012
I have a Catalyst Switch that is been used as a SAN switch providing ISCSI connection for servers.The total output drops of the interfaces connected to the SAN and some connected to the servers keep increasing.
Example below:
SWESAN1-1#sh interfaces gigabitEthernet 0/1
GigabitEthernet0/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected) Hardware is Gigabit Ethernet, address is ec44.763c.8f01 (bia ec44.763c.8f01)MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 5/255Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not setKeepalive set (10 sec)Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, media type is 10/100/1000BaseTXinput flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00Last input never, output 00:00:08, output hang neverLast clearing of "show interface" counters 03:25:04Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 78Queueing strategy: fifoOutput queue: 0/40 (size/max)5 minute input rate 22322000 bits/sec, 2171 packets/sec5 minute output rate 5155000 bits/sec, 1487 packets/sec20441503 packets input, 23941254166 bytes, 0 no bufferReceived 0 broadcasts (0 multicasts)0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored0 watchdog, 0 multicast, 0 pause input0 input packets with dribble condition detected16323602 packets output, 9608971046 bytes, 0 underruns0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 PAUSE output0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
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Nov 29, 2011
I have 2 Cat-6506's that are used for my WiSM's. The only thing in both Chassis is 2 X WiSMs a SUP-7203A and a 6516A line card.The only connection between the rest of the network and these chassis is on port gig 1/2.[code] If I have read other posts correctly all points to the ASIC being overun by that traffic being sent from my WiSMs out to the Network.
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Feb 21, 2013
I have a problem with Total Output Drops, it's increase and decreases on WS-C3750E-48TD-E.
SWCIACTCT05#sh int gi1/0/47 | i Total output drops:
Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 6487344
SWCIACTCT05#sh int gi1/0/47 | i Total output drops:
Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 6487344
SWCIACTCT05#sh int gi1/0/47 | i Total output drops:
Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 6487344
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I checked and found two registered bug id: CSCtq86186 / CSCso81660.I would like to know what is the best IOS version to update my switch, IOS 15.0.2 SE2 or 12.2.58 SE2, by the way, my environment is very critical (data center) and the version 15.0.2 SE2 is very recent, but its stable ?In both versions the problem are fixed?
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Mar 27, 2012
Our database server is connected on cisco swich 2960G gigabitEthernet 0/38.while showing the interface command the total output drops is a large value..Is there any issue with this value.I think this is one of the reason for slow access of the server.
cisco6#show interfaces gigabitEthernet 0/38
GigabitEthernet0/38 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
Hardware is Gigabit Ethernet, address is 58bc.2746.45a6 (bia 58bc.2746.45a6)
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May 22, 2012
What is the cause of having a huge number ( 875349) of total output drops on one of my gigabit utp port gi 2/12 which is connected to Cisco 1841 fa0/0 router by mean of cat5e cable.I did change the cable from cat5e to cat 6 and tried to increase hold queue to 4096 and to tweak wrr queue bandwidth
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May 15, 2011
I am seeing Interface output drops that appera to be incorrect. When I do "Show Interface gi1/0/20", I will get interface output drops of "4294961382". But, when I do the same command again it shows "0" drops. Is this a reporting error? I am ruinning c3750-ipservicesk9-mz.122-58.SE.bin on a 3750 stack with 2 switches in the stack. [code]
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Apr 3, 2013
we have two 6509E, as our core switches. Recently I noticed that on some connections I have a high output queue drop rate.
These 4 x 2 interfaces (gigabit) are connected to our blade encolure, consisting of 4 x WS-CBS3120X-S. The utilization of the links is really quite low, when I see the increase of the drops. (~=60Mbps). All the links are fiber (SFP) and the distance between the core switches and the enclosure is about 15-20m.
I am not aware of any service degradation on the part of the servers. No CRCs, collisions etc, on the interfaces, apart from the drops.
The line card is a WS-X6748-SFP, but other interfaces don't seem to be experiencing any problems.
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Jan 10, 2013
I've been fighting what seems to be an increased number of outqueue drops on our core stack and edge switches for the last 3 or 4 weeks.(The core consists of a stack of 5 3750s in 32-gig stack mode. The wkgrp switches are 3560s. all are at 12.2.52) The wkgrp switches are directly connected to users. We use Nortel IP phones with the phone inline with the user PC. auto-neg to 100/full. [code] However I have tried turning off QOS on a couple of workgroup switches (no mls qos, but left individual port configurations the same) but am still seeing drops.Since I have disabled qos on the switches in question (no mls qos) (not the core tho) I am presuming these commands have no affect on the switch operation and therefore cannot be related to the problem. With QOS turned off one would presume that it is general congestion - especially at the user edge where busy PC issues might contribute. So I wanted to see if I could see any instances of packets in the output queues building up.
I wrote some scripts and macros that essentially did a snapshot of 'show int' every 20 seconds or so, and looked for instances of 'Queue: x/' where x was greater than zero.What I found after several days of watching the core stack, and a few of the workgroup switches that are most often displaying the behavior, was that I NEVER saw ANY packets in output queues. I often saw packets in Input queues for VLAN1, once in a great while I would see packets on input queues for fa or Gi interfaces, but NEVER on output queues. [ code] Additionally, when I look (via snmp) at interface utilization on interfaces showing queue drops (both core and wkgroup), they are occurring at ridiculously low utilization levels (as low as 4 to 8%). I've tried to look for microbursts between the core and a wkgroup switch where the core interface was experiencing drops, but haven't seen any (using observer suite). [code] While the queue-drop counts aren't critically high at this point, they are happening more frequently than in the past and I would like to understand what is going on... In most cases, no error counters are incrementing for these interfaces. Is there some mechanism besides congestion that could cause output queue drops?
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Nov 6, 2011
i have an 2921 connected to an Catalyst 3560. My router interface shows quite a lot of input queue drops. Load is not too much max 5/255.
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Mar 13, 2013
One of my Catalyst 3750 switch have many out drops, I execute "sh mls qos int g2/0/3 statist" command, there are many output drops in queue3 threshold3. [code]
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Jul 4, 2011
I have a 48 port 2960 switch with 2 10/100 ports ( fa0/46-47) setup in an etherchannel with a 2950 48 port switch. I am getting total output drops on port fa0/47. [code]
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Mar 22, 2013
I have a 3750X-24T in our production environment that is showing very high number of OQD's in the 'show int sum' output for 4 of the Gigabit interfaces; the interfaces are each in a seperate port channel and there are no OQD's for the relevant port channel and there are no output drops showing in the output for the 'sh int' command for each interface.
The following are the OQD's for the relenvant interfaces
Gi1/1/1: 0
Gi1/1/2: 0
Gi1/1/3: 0
Gi1/1/4: 0
Gi2/1/1: 4252879251
Gi2/1/2: 4251090833
Gi2/1/3: 4251754140
Gi2/1/4: 4294942102
Po1: 0
Po2: 0
Po3: 0
P04: 0
Gi1/1/1 and Gi2/1/2 assigned to Po1, and so on.
IOS version: C3750E-IPBASEK9-M 12.2(58)SE2
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Apr 16, 2012
I've been working on breaking down and understanding the default auto qos configuration on a Cisco 3750 in the hopes of putting together a QoS strategy that will fit our environment. I'm having some difficulty understanding how the "mls qos queue-set output" syntax works.
From another post, at [URL], the author offers the following example and explanation;
mls qos queue-set output <1/2> threshold 2 400 400 100 400thresshold 1: 400%
thresshold 2: 400%
thresshold 3: 100% (implicit, not configurable)
reserved: 100%
max: 400%
However, I'm having trouble understanding what is meant. Here, it looks like it's saying, for example;
mls qos queue-set output 1 threshold 2 400 400 100 400
How come there is syntax stating "threshold 2" when in the succeeding part the 400 refers to thresshold 1 and threshold 2 again? The syntax 400 400 is, apparently, already referring to thresshold 1 and 2, no?
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Feb 16, 2012
When configuring QoS on 3750s/3560s, we're mapping packets to particular interface output queues with commands such as: [code] The command to see what's actually being enqueued, dropped, etc. is: [code]
Note that these queues are numbered 0 - 3, and not 1 - 4. We've been assuming that the first queue number in the "mls qos" (i.e., 1) command maps to the first queue (i.e., 0) in the "show mls qos" command.
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Apr 30, 2013
We currently have a site with a very simple topology that uses a 3750X switch stack for a collapsed core. Everyday, the users have a conference call and experience poor voice quality.Its not bad when users call from several conference phones, but when everyone calls in on individual phones, there is choppy and almost inaudible voice quality experienced. The voice traffic flow would be as follows: Phone <-> 3750 switch <-> Voice GW We have packet captures showing that RTP packet loss is occuring from the phone to the voice gateway, but none from the voice gateway to the phones. We also have drops in the output queues that match drops on the asics. I can reset the counters and they will be clear until the call, and then they increment significantly during the call. The voice gateway and phones are non-Cisco. The switch stack has 6 switches. We are trusting the DSCP settings on the phones. All the queue drops from the phones are usually in queues 0-3, but all drops on the voice gateway is in queue 0. Below are the QoS settings; they are mostly default and we have not changed any queuing, thresholds, or buffers. Should we specify larger buffers and threshold for a designated queue and send EF traffic to that queue?
MySwitch#sh mls qos
QoS is enabled
QoS ip packet dscp rewrite is disabled
Typical Port
GigabitEthernet1/0/4
trust state: trust dscp
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Mar 9, 2013
I can see drops on the 6509 Queue for interface gi1/6 , qos is disabled globaly with qos disabled all packets are in one Queue using best effort my question is if I can see drops using the sh queueing int Gi1/6 command why I am not seeing any drops when I run the Sh int (interface number ) command. [code]
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Sep 8, 2012
I can see drops on one of our busy L3 vlan in the input queue and are going up very frequently.System image file is "sup-bootflash:s72033-psv-mz.122-18.SXD3.binHardware = 6509
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Feb 10, 2012
I feel that 3560 and 3750 perform differently with the following two commands:
srr-queue bandwidth shape 5 0 0 0
srr-queue bandwidth limit 50
On 3750, the bandwidth for queue 1 is limited to 100mbps x 50% / 5 = 10mbps
On 3560, the bandwidth for queue 1 is limited to the smaller value of BW / shape weight and BW x limit%.
Does it sound about right? is there a way to check for mls qos input queue drops? The show mls qos interface xxx stat only shows the output queue drops. Maybe for some reason the input queue never drops?
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Dec 3, 2011
This log message is produced Catalyst4507R+E.The device is inserted SUP-7 with 3.1.0SG Image.With this log message, the device produced duplication packet of multicast. Dec 2 16:40:00.276: (Suppressed 269 times)Dup Packet Fail for Sw Port
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Nov 28, 2012
My Company use Core Sw 4507R-Sup 7L-E with Enterprise Services License. I has upgraded to use iOS cat4500e-universal.SPA.03.03.01.SG.151-1.SG1.bin
When I use match protocol in class-map, there are only about 10 protocols, and not have those ones I need. I intend to expand the list of protocols to do some Policy-map by loading PDLM. But 4507 is no longer support NBAR. So do we have another way to set Catalyst 4507R with Sup 7L-E recongnize more protocols in match protocol command?
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Mar 28, 2011
I have a Cisco Catalyst 4507R+E (with Sup7-E) and two blades; one WS-X4748-RJ45V+E and one WS-X4648-RJ45-E.
When I connect a device to a port on the WS-X4748-RJ45V+E blade the port will not come up, show interface shows the status as "notconnect". When I connect the same device to the WS-X4648-RJ45-E blade the interface comes up.
The WS-X4748-RJ45V+E blade seems to have initialised okay, it appears in the output of "show module" as OK.
I get exactly the same effect on a second, identically configured Catalyst 4507R+E.
The software version is IOS XE 3.1.0SG, which according to the release notes supports the WS-X4748-RJ45V+E blade
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Aug 2, 2010
I have quite a few 2960's in a manufacturing environment that are experiencing a large number of Total Output Drops. The gigabit uplinks arn't even close to fully subscribed and if I'm lucky they run at a peak of 4 - 5 Mb on a 1Gb uplink. Something really funky is going on. The individual switchports seem to have the total output drops and the uplinks at 1Gb do not have any output drops and never peak above 20Mb over a 3 month span on a 1Gb link.
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Oct 8, 2012
We are seeing some high output drops on our 3560G's and I'm wondering if there is anything I can do to solve this, or should I just be looking at an upgrade.I do not have qos enabled:
do-rs-ah-3560g#show mls qos
QoS is disabled
QoS ip packet dscp rewrite is enabled
I don't have anything special configured apart from some trunk ports, otherwise its mostly defaults.Should I enable qos and tweak the buffering?
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Feb 21, 2012
I have a 3560X that is directly connected to an ASA 5505. I am seeing output drops on the 3560X interface that connects to the ASA. Below are the troubleshooting commands I have ran, but I don't see any indication to what is causing the problem.
3560X
show run int gig 0/24
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/24
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Nov 23, 2012
Have got 2 6500 in VSS. I'm seeing unsual high output drops. IOS Version: advipservicesk9-mz.151-1.SY.bin
Seeing too much output drops on interface ( in millions). When checked buffers ( output pasted below), it also shows enourmous drops.Not too sure, but is this normal or is there something fishy; which needs to be investigated. [code]
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Mar 13, 2012
I have too much output drops in my cisco 7206 VxR NPE G1 router. I'm doing dot1Q on this interface and is connected to switch , i changed the router and IOS but still the error is same . What can be the reason . The interface on switch and router are 1000/Full and i changed the cable also . The traffic only comes about max70Mbps and it is really confusing. [code]
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Jan 25, 2013
I've got a recurring them developing across several deployments of Catalyst 3750X series switches, I'm seeing large amount of output drops across multiple ports but there are is no QoS deployed on any of these switches. (standard FiFO). As it happens the ports in question are a member of EtherChannel groups which are connected to ESX Hosts.I've also seen this behaviour also unexplained on another 3750X at a different site, however it's a single port and connects to an Upstream firewall.However in both cases neither switch has any QoS or non-standard configuration, literally a couple of VLAN's and some EtherChannel groups.Here's some output from the case involving the ESX servers.
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Nov 17, 2012
I have seen an error in GRE configured between two routers over WAN. i am monitoring the WAN link and GRe tunnel via WhatsupGold NMS and it reported that Gre tunnel having packet loss sometimes and this time it affects the services and traffic passing over tunnel.sh int t101 shows output drops . is that the problem ? i have read that i have to adjust MTC size but i tried to change the tunnel MTU to 1400 but still sh int t101 shows MTU as 1514 ? What could be the problem of output drops in my tunnel link. [code]
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May 19, 2013
i noticed the "output drops" increasing in interface gi 1/0/1 in my switch 2960-S although the utilization of my interface is between 20% and 50 %
SW__A#sh interfaces gigabitEthernet 1/0/1
GigabitEthernet1/0/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,
reliability 255/255, txload 93/255, rxload 3/255
Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
Keepalive set (10 sec)
[code]....
what is the cause of this issue ?
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Mar 5, 2012
I'm currently trying to diagnose a re-occuring problem with output drops on an uplink interface to a SonicWALL firewall, between 1am - 3am every night we receive alerts that the output drops (discards) counter has incremented.
This time frame happens to be when several network based backups are running so that's probably to blame for the added traffic count but I'm trying to narrow down what's actually dropping the traffic.
The switch hardware is a WS-C3750X-48 running C3750E-UNIVERSALK9-M , 12.2 (55) SE3.
My current thinking is that the output drops are indicative of congestion on the link to the SonicWALL indicating that the SonicWALL unit is incapable of processing the traffic flow fast enough thus causing the congestion and ultimately the output drops on the Gi2/0/48 interface.
According to SonicWALL the unit is rated at 1.5Gbps throughput without UTM services (pure stateful), and no UTM services are enabled.
I've posted a section of the show interface command:
Keepalive set (10 sec)
Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, media type is 10/100/1000BaseTX
input flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported
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Jul 4, 2012
I've got a recurring them developing across several deployments of Catalyst 3750X series switches, I'm seeing large amount of output drops accross multiple ports but there are is no QoS deployed on any of these switches. (standard FiFO).
As it happens the ports in question are a member of EtherChannel groups which are connected to ESX Hosts.I've also seen this behaviour also unexplained on another 3750X at a different site, however it's a single port and connects to an Upstream firewall.
However in both cases neither switch has any QoS or non-standard configuration, literally a couple of VLAN's and some EtherChannel groups.Here's some output from the case involving the ESX servers:
Port-channel6 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
Hardware is EtherChannel, address is 1cdf.0f82.1607 (bia 1cdf.0f82.1607)
Description: EC to xxxx
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,
reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
Keepalive set (10 sec)
[Code]...
How I can attempt to identify what traffic is being dropped?
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Feb 11, 2013
I just got a Cisco 2960G 24-port gigabit switch so that our HP servers can have a Gigabit connection to the network. I moved 2 servers to it (HP Proliant DL380's) but they don't actually seem to be able to achieve even close to 1000Gbps. I ran same some LAN bandwidth tests and it was showing only around 200-300 Mbps between all of them. I also ran a network stress test utility, LAN Tornado, and it was showing packet loss as high as 60% when on gigabit, and only .07% when on 100Mbps.
-Both the NIC's and the switch ports are set to 1000/Full
-Currently using Cat5e cabling no more than 25Ft in length (I know Cat6 would be better but Cat5e is supposed to support Gigabit)
-All servers are on the same VLAN
Here are the port statistics when running just a stress test @ 10Mbps that had a 45% packet loss. What's odd though is when I set the servers and switches to 100Mbps, I get less than 1% packet loss.
GigabitEthernet1/0/16 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
Hardware is Gigabit Ethernet, address is 203a.07ff.7e90 (bia 203a.07ff.7e90)
MTU 9000 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec,
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