Cisco WAN :: 3750X-24T Output Queue Drops
Mar 22, 2013
I have a 3750X-24T in our production environment that is showing very high number of OQD's in the 'show int sum' output for 4 of the Gigabit interfaces; the interfaces are each in a seperate port channel and there are no OQD's for the relevant port channel and there are no output drops showing in the output for the 'sh int' command for each interface.
The following are the OQD's for the relenvant interfaces
Gi1/1/1: 0
Gi1/1/2: 0
Gi1/1/3: 0
Gi1/1/4: 0
Gi2/1/1: 4252879251
Gi2/1/2: 4251090833
Gi2/1/3: 4251754140
Gi2/1/4: 4294942102
Po1: 0
Po2: 0
Po3: 0
P04: 0
Gi1/1/1 and Gi2/1/2 assigned to Po1, and so on.
IOS version: C3750E-IPBASEK9-M 12.2(58)SE2
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Apr 3, 2013
we have two 6509E, as our core switches. Recently I noticed that on some connections I have a high output queue drop rate.
These 4 x 2 interfaces (gigabit) are connected to our blade encolure, consisting of 4 x WS-CBS3120X-S. The utilization of the links is really quite low, when I see the increase of the drops. (~=60Mbps). All the links are fiber (SFP) and the distance between the core switches and the enclosure is about 15-20m.
I am not aware of any service degradation on the part of the servers. No CRCs, collisions etc, on the interfaces, apart from the drops.
The line card is a WS-X6748-SFP, but other interfaces don't seem to be experiencing any problems.
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Jan 14, 2013
We're having kind of a problem with our Catalyst 4507r switches. If we do a "show interface" command we're getting a lot of "Total output drops" on some of our interfaces. It seems to be most of the time on the same vlan.I was wondering if it has got something to do with QOS or queue selection As we don't have any QOS markings configured, is it possible that all traffic is using only one of the four tx queue's?
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Jan 10, 2013
I've been fighting what seems to be an increased number of outqueue drops on our core stack and edge switches for the last 3 or 4 weeks.(The core consists of a stack of 5 3750s in 32-gig stack mode. The wkgrp switches are 3560s. all are at 12.2.52) The wkgrp switches are directly connected to users. We use Nortel IP phones with the phone inline with the user PC. auto-neg to 100/full. [code] However I have tried turning off QOS on a couple of workgroup switches (no mls qos, but left individual port configurations the same) but am still seeing drops.Since I have disabled qos on the switches in question (no mls qos) (not the core tho) I am presuming these commands have no affect on the switch operation and therefore cannot be related to the problem. With QOS turned off one would presume that it is general congestion - especially at the user edge where busy PC issues might contribute. So I wanted to see if I could see any instances of packets in the output queues building up.
I wrote some scripts and macros that essentially did a snapshot of 'show int' every 20 seconds or so, and looked for instances of 'Queue: x/' where x was greater than zero.What I found after several days of watching the core stack, and a few of the workgroup switches that are most often displaying the behavior, was that I NEVER saw ANY packets in output queues. I often saw packets in Input queues for VLAN1, once in a great while I would see packets on input queues for fa or Gi interfaces, but NEVER on output queues. [ code] Additionally, when I look (via snmp) at interface utilization on interfaces showing queue drops (both core and wkgroup), they are occurring at ridiculously low utilization levels (as low as 4 to 8%). I've tried to look for microbursts between the core and a wkgroup switch where the core interface was experiencing drops, but haven't seen any (using observer suite). [code] While the queue-drop counts aren't critically high at this point, they are happening more frequently than in the past and I would like to understand what is going on... In most cases, no error counters are incrementing for these interfaces. Is there some mechanism besides congestion that could cause output queue drops?
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Jun 6, 2012
We are facing output queue problems on our ATM interfaces. A lot of output queue errors are been shown as below.
Cisco 2811 -> ATM Link -> <-ATM Link <- Cisco 3945 Routers.
Cisco 2811 Version is 124-15.T9.bin
Cisco 3945 Version is SPA.150-1.M1.bin
Cisco 2811 Output Errors
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Apr 16, 2012
I've been working on breaking down and understanding the default auto qos configuration on a Cisco 3750 in the hopes of putting together a QoS strategy that will fit our environment. I'm having some difficulty understanding how the "mls qos queue-set output" syntax works.
From another post, at [URL], the author offers the following example and explanation;
mls qos queue-set output <1/2> threshold 2 400 400 100 400thresshold 1: 400%
thresshold 2: 400%
thresshold 3: 100% (implicit, not configurable)
reserved: 100%
max: 400%
However, I'm having trouble understanding what is meant. Here, it looks like it's saying, for example;
mls qos queue-set output 1 threshold 2 400 400 100 400
How come there is syntax stating "threshold 2" when in the succeeding part the 400 refers to thresshold 1 and threshold 2 again? The syntax 400 400 is, apparently, already referring to thresshold 1 and 2, no?
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Feb 16, 2012
When configuring QoS on 3750s/3560s, we're mapping packets to particular interface output queues with commands such as: [code] The command to see what's actually being enqueued, dropped, etc. is: [code]
Note that these queues are numbered 0 - 3, and not 1 - 4. We've been assuming that the first queue number in the "mls qos" (i.e., 1) command maps to the first queue (i.e., 0) in the "show mls qos" command.
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Apr 30, 2013
We currently have a site with a very simple topology that uses a 3750X switch stack for a collapsed core. Everyday, the users have a conference call and experience poor voice quality.Its not bad when users call from several conference phones, but when everyone calls in on individual phones, there is choppy and almost inaudible voice quality experienced. The voice traffic flow would be as follows: Phone <-> 3750 switch <-> Voice GW We have packet captures showing that RTP packet loss is occuring from the phone to the voice gateway, but none from the voice gateway to the phones. We also have drops in the output queues that match drops on the asics. I can reset the counters and they will be clear until the call, and then they increment significantly during the call. The voice gateway and phones are non-Cisco. The switch stack has 6 switches. We are trusting the DSCP settings on the phones. All the queue drops from the phones are usually in queues 0-3, but all drops on the voice gateway is in queue 0. Below are the QoS settings; they are mostly default and we have not changed any queuing, thresholds, or buffers. Should we specify larger buffers and threshold for a designated queue and send EF traffic to that queue?
MySwitch#sh mls qos
QoS is enabled
QoS ip packet dscp rewrite is disabled
Typical Port
GigabitEthernet1/0/4
trust state: trust dscp
[code].....
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Dec 6, 2011
Vlan interface would be dropping packets on the input queue? Refer to the drops/flushes below. This is from a 6500 with a Sup720, there are a number of vlans on it. This 6500 and it's HSRP partner are exhibiting the same symptoms on all the vlans I bothered to check. This particular vlan is quite lightly used, there are only about fifteen user PC's (each with 100 Mb interfaces) on it.
There is a bit of information on input queue drops on Cisco, but this is focused on physical interfaces where I can understand some packets being dropped. I would think that Vlan interfaces would have different issues.I note the "no buffer" errors as well, that also concerns me, especially as that counter is quite close to the "flushes".
Vlan123 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is EtherSVI, address is 00d0.04fd.6000 (bia 00d0.04fd.6000) Description: Vlan123 Internet address is 10.123.123.7/24 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive not supported ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
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I can see drops on the 6509 Queue for interface gi1/6 , qos is disabled globaly with qos disabled all packets are in one Queue using best effort my question is if I can see drops using the sh queueing int Gi1/6 command why I am not seeing any drops when I run the Sh int (interface number ) command. [code]
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I can see drops on one of our busy L3 vlan in the input queue and are going up very frequently.System image file is "sup-bootflash:s72033-psv-mz.122-18.SXD3.binHardware = 6509
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Feb 10, 2012
I feel that 3560 and 3750 perform differently with the following two commands:
srr-queue bandwidth shape 5 0 0 0
srr-queue bandwidth limit 50
On 3750, the bandwidth for queue 1 is limited to 100mbps x 50% / 5 = 10mbps
On 3560, the bandwidth for queue 1 is limited to the smaller value of BW / shape weight and BW x limit%.
Does it sound about right? is there a way to check for mls qos input queue drops? The show mls qos interface xxx stat only shows the output queue drops. Maybe for some reason the input queue never drops?
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I have an issue with an ASR 1001. The problem occurs with MQC shaping applied to a gigabit interface in the outbound direction. The CIR of the provider we are using is 100Mb/sec, so we are shaping to that value. However when reported traffic levels are about 60Mb/sec, we see a steady increase in output drops. [code]
I have also tried increasing the hold queue, however this does not work with the drops. Increasing the shaping rate to 200Mb/sec gets rid of almost all the drops (not quite all!) but is not what we need. I think that we should see some drops when rates spike above 100mb, however the amount we are seeing seems excessive?
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We have a 7613 w/ WS-SUP720-3BXL running 12.2(18)SXF11. We have a 48 port WS-X6748-GE-TX that has one interface that keeps getting output drops for anything over 200Mb/sec.
See the attached file which has more details and show results.
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Feb 7, 2011
I have this topology in part of my networ:k
Cisco7200---Cisco6500---Cisco3560---LAN1
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Cisco3560
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LAN2
All devices are interconected via optical 1Gb/s links. There is no QoS implemented on any device and all VLANs are allowed on all interfaces.
Also all links are trunks (with many VLANs)
In LAN1 there was a layer 2 broadcast-storm and 4000packets/s was comming to rest of the network (in one particular VLAN).
1) 7200 with G1 should be able to handle traffic up to 500Mb/s, but a lot of users experienced drops on traffic via 7200.
(CPU load was around 10%).
2) Why do I have input drops on 7200 on link toward 6500 if CPU was normal. Broadcast comming to this interfaces were cca 4kpps. But since it's destination is not on router these packets should be rejected on interface controller. Is that right? (7200 doesn't even has dot1q subinterface in that VLAN but since 6500 allow all VLANs on its trunk these packets reach 7200)
3) Why do I have output drops on Cisco 6500 (it is here as layer 2 device only)? It is max 160Mb/s in output direction. It has WS6724 card with DFC (there is no oversubscription).. Shouln't 6500 send traffic as fast as interface allows (up to 1Gb/s). Am I righ't?
4) After all how coul'd 6500 now if 7200 can't handle these traffic?Output drops should be only seen if QoS is enabled (i.e. shaping), or if there is oversubscription on the linecard?
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Below are few stats as starter. IOS i am using is c7200p-is-mz.122-31.SB10.bin
sh int pos1/1
POS1/1 is up, line protocol is up
Hardware is Packet over Sonet
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ellslr1#sh int gig 0/2GigabitEthernet0/2 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is CN Gigabit Ethernet, address is 1cdf.0f26.beb2 (bia 1cdf.0f26.beb2) Description: *** WAN *** Internet address is x.x.x.x/x MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) Full Duplex, 1Gbps, media type is RJ45 output flow-control is unsupported, input flow(code)
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3560X
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interface GigabitEthernet0/24
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I have a Catalyst Switch that is been used as a SAN switch providing ISCSI connection for servers.The total output drops of the interfaces connected to the SAN and some connected to the servers keep increasing.
Example below:
SWESAN1-1#sh interfaces gigabitEthernet 0/1
GigabitEthernet0/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected) Hardware is Gigabit Ethernet, address is ec44.763c.8f01 (bia ec44.763c.8f01)MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 5/255Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not setKeepalive set (10 sec)Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, media type is 10/100/1000BaseTXinput flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00Last input never, output 00:00:08, output hang neverLast clearing of "show interface" counters 03:25:04Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 78Queueing strategy: fifoOutput queue: 0/40 (size/max)5 minute input rate 22322000 bits/sec, 2171 packets/sec5 minute output rate 5155000 bits/sec, 1487 packets/sec20441503 packets input, 23941254166 bytes, 0 no bufferReceived 0 broadcasts (0 multicasts)0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored0 watchdog, 0 multicast, 0 pause input0 input packets with dribble condition detected16323602 packets output, 9608971046 bytes, 0 underruns0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 PAUSE output0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
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