Cisco Switching/Routing :: 3750 Stack Switches Compared To 4500 Series
Dec 30, 2011
I'm thinking about using a 3750 stacking around 4 or 5 switches intead of using one 4500 series switch.
1-My first argument was concerning the budget (one 4500 instead of four or five 3750 in stack mode) ---- Here i think 4 or 5 stacked 3750 is cheap than one 4500
2- My second argument was about harware redundancing that i don't have with one 4500 and that i have with stack mode ----Here i have more hardware redundancing with 3750
3- The bug that we notice today in 2960 and 3750 and not in 4500
4- Simple to manage a 4500 compare to 3750 stack design
5- I was looking also for the one with best backplane ----Here i didn't have any infos concerning the best backplane between 4 or 5 stack 3750 and a 4500.
6- I'm also looking for power redundancing.
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Oct 8, 2012
I have Cisco Catalyst Stack structure that consist of;
3750E-48TD-S (MASTER) (UNIVERSAL Image)
3750G-48TS-S (IPBASE Image)
3750G-48TS-S (IPBASE Image)
3750G-48TS-S (IPBASE Image)
I want to upgrade their IOSs to k9 images.
I can not dowload Universal Image file from Cisco website because of the expired service contract. I have IPBASE IOS files for all switches,
Can it be a problem to upgrade master switch IOS from Universal to IPBASE image?
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Dec 11, 2011
I have a design for my infrastructure and i'm thinking to choose 4 or 5, or more, 2960 series in a stack mode instead of one 4500 series?
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Feb 5, 2012
Is it possible to create a stack with 5 WS2960-S series switches OR are you limited to only creating a stack of 4 switches.
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Sep 25, 2012
I need to apply DHCP snooping on 4500 series switches working as L2 in my Network. We have external DHCL Server in another location connected with 6500 series switch.
Running EIGRP Configured Voice & Data Vlan both
DHCP Server -------- 6509 switch<----------------------------------->6509 Switch -------- 4500 switch ----------------------------------------------------------Ip Phones.
(ving Redundant) (ving Redundant)
I need to know whether the configuration which I mentioned in scenario is enough for apply DHCP snooping in my network.
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Aug 6, 2012
Looking for feedback from other organizations that have large 3750 stacks. I've got one stack of (8) 3750's composed of (6) 3750G's and (2) plain 3750's. This particular stack is usually unresponsive to SNMP queries and often fails to write config when we make changes. After a couple tries it will finally go. Part of my probably here is likely the plain 3750's that always boot faster and come up as the master. I should manually set the master to one of the G's. What I'm wondering is who else has 7-9 3750's stacked and are they performing well for SNMP, telnet, etc? I've got another newer stack of 7 3750E's that I need to add one more switch to. Need to decide if I want extended downtime to break the stack up or just add the 3750X to make member 8 and hope it performs well. I have 50+ 3750 stacks working great on our campus.
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Nov 13, 2012
I am trying to do ios upgrade on 5 stacked 3750 switches. All the switches have different model number, so i am wondering which image file i should download. As far as i understand all the stacked switches should have the same IOS, i may be wrong. The switches have the following model numbers and SW images;
Switch Ports Model SW Version SW Image
------ ----- ----- ---------- ----------
1 28 WS-C3750G-24PS 12.2(35)SE5 C3750-IPSERVICESK9-M
* 2 28 WS-C3750G-24PS 12.2(35)SE5 C3750-IPSERVICESK9-M
3 52 WS-C3750G-48PS 12.2(35)SE5 C3750-IPSERVICESK9-M
4 30 WS-C3750E-24PD 12.2(35)SE5 C3750E-UNIVERSAL-M
5 30 WS-C3750E-24PD 12.2(35)SE5 C3750E-UNIVERSAL-M
which image file i should use as they all have different model numbers and Cisco provides different image files for each model.
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Jan 27, 2013
We have several stacks of 3750 switches where this problem is occurring. All of the switches are running IOS version 12.2(50)SE3. (Yes, I know it's old.)
We're seeing inconsistency in how the stack reports members when issuing the following commands:
sow switch
show version
show inventory
Not all members are showing up in the output of the "show version" and "show inventory" commands. For example:
HUNTI-WV-WDAC03#sh switch
H/W Current
Switch# Role Mac Address Priority Version State
----------------------------------------------------------
1 Member 108c.cff2.ea00 15 0 Ready
2 Member 8cb6.4f0a.a600 1 0 Ready
*3 Master 8cb6.4f0a.9c00 1 0 Ready
(all three switches in stack are displayed)(code)
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Mar 26, 2012
I am wanting to etherchannel from a 3750 stack to core Layer 3 switches (also 3750) with a cable going to each core switch, I have put both core switches and the stack under a 28bit subnet mask, but I dont seem to be load balancing across both links.
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Sep 22, 2012
I have 3 3750 staking switch with the following configuration:
H/W Current
Switch# Role Mac Address Priority Version State
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1 Member 442b.0350.9400 1 1 Ready
2 Member 442b.0357.8780 2 1 Ready
3 Master 442b.036f.a800 3 1 Ready
The new switch is installed to be wired to the master switch. the swtich 3 (* 3 Master Ready 442b.036f.a800)my question is: if you disconnect the wiring from the master stack to connect to the new switch, it is possible that the new switch change the current configuration of stacking.
-Can I just add the new switch with clean configuration without changing the current configuration ?
-How is assigned the stack number? i need the new switch be with the GI4 / x?. I can I manually by assigning ports?
-If I want to the new 3750 member witch lower prioridad, can I change priority before adding to stack?
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Feb 20, 2012
I have been given 2 x 3750 switches that were a stack, I need to keep the configs on both but how do I make them individual switches again and remove the stack info?
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Feb 12, 2013
Lets say i have 2 3750 switches stacked via backend stack cables. Now if a packet needs to go from 1 switch in the stack to second switch in the stack, will it travel via stack cable or do we need to connect both switches via uplink ports (ethernet or sfp). I tried reading datasheet but it no wheres mention the actual frame path between switches in stack.
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Mar 11, 2012
I have an issue with a Cisco 3750 switch stack which is connected to two seperate upstream Cisco 3750's which are administered by an ISP. The ISP is experiencing MAC address flapping from one of my VLAN SVI's i am using to route traffic upstream
[code]...
As you can see I utilise a VLAN SVI to route traffic to the upstream 1.1.1.2 (illustration only) IP. As per the diagram of the topology attached, the ISP is receiving a MAC address flapping error confirming the SVI MAC address from my switch stack is being learnt on the trunk port connecting switch 1 and switch 2, and also the port (Gi1/0/48) directly connected to my switch stack. As these are all Layer 2 links essentially being passed upstream and then connected between the two ISP switches, we have a 3 way triangular loop formed.
If I was to remove the port channel configuration from the two ports associated with the VLAN SVI, am i right in suggesting this would still form a layer 2 loop? The two ports would still be a member of the SVI VLAN, and it is the VLAN MAC address which is being learnt by the two ISP switches on different interfaces.
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Oct 22, 2012
I am connecting power cable (series power cables) on 3750 stacks. i have connected them the same way the stack cables are connected i.e. fo rexample on a stack with 3 3750s:
1- fitst slot on fist switch connected the second slot last switch in the stack.
2- second slot/ port on the first switch to the first on second and seoncd on teh second switch to first on the third switch.
this how they are alway been stacked.Now, I need to connect power cables and I have followed the same method for stacks up to 4 switches. it seems that if a stack has more tham 4 switches, then the cabling will be dofferent!?I was wondering what will be on the cabling scheme for stacks more than 4 switches.
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Sep 29, 2012
I configure 3750 stack switch as core and 2960 stack switches as access layer switches.I connected my laptop to one of my core stack in VLAN 10 and I am pinging to one of my server in VLAN 1. What will be the minimum latency at the time of inter VALN routing
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Jan 10, 2013
I've been fighting what seems to be an increased number of outqueue drops on our core stack and edge switches for the last 3 or 4 weeks.(The core consists of a stack of 5 3750s in 32-gig stack mode. The wkgrp switches are 3560s. all are at 12.2.52) The wkgrp switches are directly connected to users. We use Nortel IP phones with the phone inline with the user PC. auto-neg to 100/full. [code] However I have tried turning off QOS on a couple of workgroup switches (no mls qos, but left individual port configurations the same) but am still seeing drops.Since I have disabled qos on the switches in question (no mls qos) (not the core tho) I am presuming these commands have no affect on the switch operation and therefore cannot be related to the problem. With QOS turned off one would presume that it is general congestion - especially at the user edge where busy PC issues might contribute. So I wanted to see if I could see any instances of packets in the output queues building up.
I wrote some scripts and macros that essentially did a snapshot of 'show int' every 20 seconds or so, and looked for instances of 'Queue: x/' where x was greater than zero.What I found after several days of watching the core stack, and a few of the workgroup switches that are most often displaying the behavior, was that I NEVER saw ANY packets in output queues. I often saw packets in Input queues for VLAN1, once in a great while I would see packets on input queues for fa or Gi interfaces, but NEVER on output queues. [ code] Additionally, when I look (via snmp) at interface utilization on interfaces showing queue drops (both core and wkgroup), they are occurring at ridiculously low utilization levels (as low as 4 to 8%). I've tried to look for microbursts between the core and a wkgroup switch where the core interface was experiencing drops, but haven't seen any (using observer suite). [code] While the queue-drop counts aren't critically high at this point, they are happening more frequently than in the past and I would like to understand what is going on... In most cases, no error counters are incrementing for these interfaces. Is there some mechanism besides congestion that could cause output queue drops?
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If a Supervisor 6-E will support NetFlow on a Catalyst 4507R-E?If not, what are my options for NetFlow on a 4507R-E?
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Apr 1, 2013
We are facing cold start issue on 4500 series switch. The switch is restarting automatically almost weekly twice or thrice.As per show tech. output , there is "cold start log".Please find the attached logs for your reference.After time change , auto restart happening & am not found any log for power failure also.
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Jun 19, 2012
Our company will go to buy a core switch 4503. What is the difference between the Catalyst 4500 E-Series Supervisor 7L-E and the Catalyst 4500 E-Series Supervisor 7-E?
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Oct 14, 2012
We have a 4500 series switch that is running around 39% cpu utilization but seems to be dragging a bit. I did a show platform health and GalChassisVp-review has a target of 3% but an actual of 17%. All other actual values were at or below target values. I then went to show platform cpu packet statistics and in the "Packets received by Packet Queue" all queue packet values at 5 sec, 1 min, 5 min and 1 hour avg were either 0 or 1 with the exception of Esmp - that averaged 351/377/317 and 313 respectively. I then checked show platform hardware acl input entries static and the entry type InputEsmpToCPU had a whopping 10121370 hit count. All other entry types were well under that number.
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Jan 8, 2012
Does a new Cisco Catalyst 4500 series supervisor 7L-E model WS-X45-SUP7L-E is backward compatible with a Cisco Catalyst 4500 series chassis model 4507R? I've checked on Cisco website for that Supervisor and it shows only new chassis models WS-C4507R+E and R-E, but what about old type of chassis? We need to upgrade that Supervisor as it's out of line, but we don't really want to buy a new chassis as well as it's going to be very pricy.
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Mar 25, 2013
I wonder are 4500-E series line cards (i.e. WS-X4648-GB-RJ45, WS-X4748-UPOE+E and WS-X4606-X2-E) supported on 4507R chassis? Datasheet says "Classic line cards may be deployed in both classic and E-Series chassis with either classic Cisco Catalyst 4500 Series supervisor engines or with the Cisco Catalyst 4500E Series Supervisor Engine." But it says nothing about E-Series line-cards being (or not) supported on classic chassis (like 4507R).
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Jun 21, 2012
When the 4500-E series switch boots and if you issue a 'show run' there's several Star Wars themed references and their revisions. What these actually are and why they are using Star Wars terminology?
Here's the output:
Cisco IOS Software, Catalyst 4500 L3 Switch Software (cat4500e-ENTSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.2(53)SG2, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Technical Support: [URL]
Copyright (c) 1986-2010 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 16-Mar-10 04:50 by prod_rel_team
Image text-base: 0x10000000, data-base: 0x12794974
ROM: 12.2(44r)SG5
Darkside Revision 4, Jawa Revision 18, Tatooine Revision 140, Forerunner Revision 1.78
1AR1R2-NC1 uptime is 2 years, 2 weeks, 3 days, 15 hours, 44 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System restarted at 19:29:14 UTC Fri Jun 4 2010
System image file is "bootflash:cat4500e-entservicesk9-mz.122-53.SG2.bin"
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Feb 6, 2013
What's the difference between a Catalyst 4500 and a Catalyst 4500E series chassis? I believe it has to to do with supporting PoE+? Are the blades in both series interchangeable?
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Mar 18, 2012
I have c3750 and c4500 switches. I want to cross connect 2 v LAN so I need connection 2 different v LAN s. Can you provide example configurations?
Whatever other case, I want to cross connect between c7200 and c3750 2 different v LAN. It's possible?
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Mar 27, 2013
On 45XX catalyst , bandwidth is allocated across six 8-port groups, providing 1 Gbps per port group. Example for the following line card : WS-X4448-GB-SFP
I want to know if there is the same mecanism on 3750X switches. I mean is bandwidth allocated across a group of ports like on 4500 catalyst ?
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Dec 6, 2011
I have two 3750s stacked and one 3750 standalone all in one data closet. The both have the same versions. I want to combine them to make one stack. How do I force the standalone to be the master? sw 1 priority XX(Higher then the existing stack)? Both the stack and the standalone have management addresses. Would it be ok to delete the stack ip address? That way, the standalone(master's address will be the only management address)?How should I connect the standalone 3750 to the stack? At present, the 3750 stack is connected via a cascade cable going from the stack 1 port of the top switch to the stack 2 port of the bottom switch.
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May 19, 2013
I have a stack of 4 3750 Switches.
1. WS-C3750G-12S
2. WS-C3750G-12S
3. WS-C3750X-48P
4. WS-C3750X-48P
The stack cable connected to Switch 1 Port 1 and Switch 4 Port 2 will not come back online. The logs show that there was a Stack line change. I have replaced the 1 meter Stack cable from Switch 1 to Switch 4 three times and it still does not come back online. This is the part that is interesting.. I have disconnected Port 1 Switch 4 and connected it to Port 2 Switch 4 and then Switch 4 came back online. This made me think Port 2 on Switch 4 was working correctly. Then I disconnected Port 2 Switch 1 and connected it to Port 1 Switch 1 and then Switch 1 came back online.
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Feb 20, 2013
i have two cisco 3750 in stack firts, master switch have all swports busy second have only 5 how can i see cpu utilizations of the second switch, and its reasonable to move somme devices from first switch to second for deacreases of cpu and memory utilisatio ns of the master? the stack tehnologies use both cpu as one? or its only for simple management ?
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Mar 11, 2013
have a cable i think is bad, is it possiable to switch the cable out without causing any downtime to the switch or connected devices?
HQ-1st-Flr-Stack#show switch stack-ports summary
Switch#/ Stack Neighbor Cable Link Link Sync # In
Port# Port Length OK Active OK Changes Loopback
Status To LinkOK
[Code].....
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Apr 29, 2012
I just need a little refreshing on upgrading a stack of 3750's. This stack only has 2 switches: [code]
1.) If I remember correctly I simply tftp the IOS to the flash of each switch and then reload the master only?
2.) Can I safely assume these are the 2 flash locations:
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Jun 21, 2012
i want to remove an access layer 3750 48 POE master switch and replace with a new 3750 switch in the stack. i want to copy the same configuration to new switch since the old switch is having POE issue and I got replacement of the malfunctioned switch. we have VTP domain is configured in the network...
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Mar 15, 2012
I have been given 2 3750 switches and need to put a config onto it wuld is for 2 3750's in a stack, how should I put this on the 2 switches? Is it bested to install it onto 1 switch first then physically attach the 2nd after?
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