Cisco WAN :: 1841 PPP Multilink Bonding 2x DSL But No Resiliency
Mar 7, 2012
I have a Cisco 1841,c1841-ipbase-mz.124-20.T4.bin, with 2x HWIC-1ADSL-M.I have managed to bond 2x DSL with PPP multlink with the config below and traffic is being sent equally across both DSL circuits. However if i disconnect either of the DSL cables connectivity fails. I was expecting connectivity to continue to work just over the one circuit. [code]
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Jul 19, 2010
We are bonding two LLU DSL lines using MLP. Our LLU provider supports MLP bonding and we have a few other customers working well on Cisco 1841s, although not such high sync speed lines as this problem site.
So the lines work well with no interface errors and sync speeds are very good and evenly matched between the two lines (approx 14Mbps downstream). It's all good - it's great in fact except that it just doesn't work properly! By that I mean we're not seeing the downstream throughput we'd expect. We actually get the downstream throughput of less than a single DSL line, so about 12Mbps. Upstream bonded throughput is fine and in line with the sync speeds.
Both circuits are 'active' in the PPP multilink bundle and I see 3 sessions on our core LNS Cisco 7301 (c7301-boot-mz.124-2.T.bin) - i.e. 2x circuits + 1x bundle. We've checked the circuits individually and 'actual' throughput (using NetPerf software) is similar for both lines and in line with the sync speeds.
We are seeing quite high CPU (50%) on the Cisco 1841 (c1841-ipbasek9-mz.124-24.T1.bin) at the customer premesis, but having tested a Cisco 2951 on the customer premesis with two new HWIC-1ADSL-M cards, this is not the cause. The 2951 ran at 5% CPU whilst we experienced the same problem.
We've checked the setup of both Cisco CPE and LNS with our LLU provider and they are happy with the MLP config. They themselves have been able to bond two similarly sync'd Annex-M DSL lines and get 25Mbps throughput on a 1841.
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R1 sh compress:
Multilink1
Software compression enabled
uncompressed bytes xmt/rcv 184340310/27355186
compressed bytes xmt/rcv 126395743/14139585
Compressed bytes sent: 126395743 bytes 774 Kbits/sec ratio: 1.458
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7600 side:
interface Multilink592
ip vrf forwarding ******************
ip address *************************
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Router1#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
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Config snippets:
card type t1 0 0card type t1 0 1!controller T1 0/0/0clock source internalcablelength short 440channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24description HCFD-XXXXXX!controller T1 0/0/1clock source internalcablelength short 440channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24description HCFD-XXXXXX!controller T1 0/1/0clock source internalcablelength short 440channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24description HCFD-XXXXXX!controller T1 0/1/1clock source internalcablelength short 440channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24description HCFD-XXXXXX!interface Multilink1ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.252ip nat outsideip virtual-reassemblyppp multilinkppp multilink group 1ppp multilink fragment disable!interface Serial0/0/0:0description T1 : HCFD-XXXXXXno ip addressencapsulation pppppp
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The campus router which is a 7206 is setup the same exact way with multilink 240 and like I've said, serial 0/0 is joined to the bundle just fine, so we are running off one T1 connection.
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Here is a show-run:
interface Multilink240
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ip ospf network point-to-point
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*Mar 13 01:32:55.438: Se0/2:0 LCP: O CONFREQ [REQsent] id 238 len 25
*Mar 13 01:32:55.438: Se0/2:0 LCP: MagicNumber 0x26CDF693 (0x050626CDF693)
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controller E1 0/2
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