Cisco Wireless :: To Switch Which Of 2 WLAN Controllers 4400 And 5500
Aug 23, 2012
I have 2 WLAN controllers, a 4400 series and 5500 series controller. The 4400 series has 100 seat limit on it, with 74 Access Points currently connected. The 5500 series has a 250 max, but we bought it with only 50 licenses, and it is max'd out at 50.The 5500 controller is the controller that has a DNS entry so that the Access Points will know to find that controller as they're being added. BUT, because we've reached our limit of 50 licenses, I'd like to be able to set the 4400 series controller to be the controller that new Access Points try to connect to. By going back to the 4400 as the controller that new Access Points connect to buys me time to plan for more licenses on next years budget for the 5500 controller.
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Oct 11, 2012
Actually we have a 4402 controller with 1120 APs both of which are marked as EoL products, we want to jump over the new 2600 APs and 5508 Controller for increase signal coverage but we have the following deals:Last firmware for 4402 controller is 7.0.Firmware needed for 5508 to support 2600 APs is 7.3.Is it possible to configure mobility between 4402 and 5508 even with different firmware branch?
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Jun 7, 2011
in one of the sites, the client has an exisiting 4402 controller which he moved to the DMZ in order to set it as an anchor & he purchased two new 5508 controllers to control the corporate APs. I configured all the parameters needed for the guest anchoring & then I tested the connection but there was an issue. (all the controllers are running the same firmware version)after testing the setup, the guest users could get an IP from the internal DHCP of the anchor controller (in DMZ), but then they cannot reach the internet or anything outside the anchor controller.Cisco confirmed that the 4400 is fully compatible with the 5500 to work in an anchor-foreign secnario as long as they are running the same firmware version. yet, when I temporarily used one of the 5500 controller in the DMZ as an anchor & I applied the exact same configurations on it as the 4400, it worked perfectly without any issues.
note: on the anchor controller (4400), the management & AP-manager interfaces reside on the same subnet & the wireless guest SSID is also mapped to the management interface. (may be this setup is causing the issue) but on the 5500 it is working just fine?
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Sep 4, 2012
I have a cisco wireless environment running NCS with a wism, two 4400's, and now two 5500's. The bulk of our AP's are 1131's, however we are now ordering and using 1142's and 3602's. We just added the 5500 controllers in preperation for a large deployment of 1142's. What I would like to do is have the system setup so that the the 1142's will default to the 5500 controllers. Since the wism and 4400 wont support the 3602's its not really an issue for them. I'm trying to find the best way to accomplish this. I've already heard one suggestion of manually going through and setting all the AP's to a primary and secondary controller but I was hoping to find a way to have the system do this for me.
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Mar 28, 2012
Currently in the process of migrating from psk to 802.1x radius environment using a mix of 4400 and 5508 controllers with WCS using Microsoft ias. The problem I have is there is a lot of shared iPads and tablets in the environment. Is there a way to force these user to relogin to radius after a certain time period so they are not sharing unames and passwords?
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Jun 25, 2011
We have two 4400 controllers which support 50 Access points each and wcs with 100 base license.Now we added 5508 controller supports 50 access points.wcs is upgraded with another 50 ap license.The 5508 controller is joined to wcs and the licence showing permanent.WCS showing all aps and showing both 100 and 50 licence as permanent.But the issue is while loging into the wcs it showing the error message as"The system is in violation of license.The number of APs registered is greater then licensed."
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Jun 1, 2012
i have a existing wireless network setup in my office existing wlc in 4402 and LAPs are 1130 & 1242 all are working fine but we are now planning to use new 5500 series controllers for the same access points,i want to ask that how i can done this job with very minore downtime and users disconnectivity + zero error results??
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Jan 18, 2010
I've read some opinions that lowering the RTS threshold can facilitate in some noisy wireless environments. I have found how this can be done on standalone APs but cant seem to implement the change on a WLC 2112. How to do it.
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Aug 12, 2012
We are using Cisco Wireless solution in our network. Using 4400/5500 WLCs and 3500/1130 series APs.
A new requirement has come up and we need to provide connectivity between two buildings (which are within 1 km) using wireless. This link should be able to give >=100Mbps.
As we already have 3500/1130 APs, can a wireless bridge be established using them which can also give >=100Mbps? Can this be done using a WLC based solution? What I mean is: Do I need to have a standalone AP solution or can it be done while both the APs register to WLC? What are the AP models/antennas that can meet my requirement?
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Jan 7, 2013
I have a existing wireless setup of 4400 WLC with some AP's connected remotely,now i am migrating the whole setup to the new WLC 5500. All the AP has been registered to the new WLC 5500 except the remote location AP's.As there was no option of giving IP address in GUI of the controller in 4400 WLC, i have changed the controller name and restarted the AP, but even though it is going back to the old controller.
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Jun 11, 2012
Q: a client has a network with 60 AP's controlled by a AIR-CT5508-50-K9 (+ L-LIC-CT5508-25A) with a redundant power supply. Can he get full redundancy by purchasing a second controller? If he purchases one, can he bring it into the network? What about the extra license for 25 extra AP's installed on the first controller?
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May 30, 2012
We have a single 4404 that was setup long before I arrived with Guest networks that timeout and other such tweaks. Is there a document somewhere that shows a way to migrate the old settings to a new 5508 that we are purchasing? By the time the 5508 arrives I will have a very small window to setup the unit before a new wing goes live. I need the new unit as we have reached our limit of licensed AP's on the old 4404. It seems like everyone keeps talking about an easy way but no one says how to do it.
I have never setup one of these units before from scratch so I don't know how long it will take.
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Aug 1, 2011
l need change a wlc 4400 to 5500, but l don´t know what l need back up, and how can I do to join the H Reap APs in the new 5500 WLC because all H Reap APs that l have, are not in the same city , and I understand if l want join AP in the new WLC l need to connect in the same network segment, is it rigth ?
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May 20, 2012
I recently upgraded our controllers to the latest version 7 software, as I read this was one of the requirements to get them to connect. But I am not having any luck getting into a controller. Normally I plug them in to the network, they pop into the controller listed as something like AP5057.a844.xxxx and then I can finish configuring them, but a static IP on them, etc. This is the first of this model AP I have tried to deploy, so I am wondering what is different with these. or what I might be missing in the default config in the WLAN controllers. Niether of which are set to "Master" either.
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Oct 21, 2012
We have a CISCO WLAN in place with several SSIDs including one on the Voice VLAN. We need to add an additional one using CCKM due to wireless phone roaming issues. Does adding a new SSID to the WLAN cause any outage whatsoever? We are in an environment where even a small amount down time is not acceptable.
We are using two 5500 controllers with hundreds of LAP1142N
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Jul 5, 2011
The Release Notes for 7.0.116.0 of WLC 5500 has a table which title is "Client Type", and it shows wireless adapters. My question is,
what kind of customer means? Wireless clients or clients for an specific application? If it was the first option, does it mean tha just this adapters could connect to my wireless network?
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Nov 1, 2012
Got a bit of a quandary with joining new access points to our 5500 series W LAN Controller. It looks like the LAP is initially able to see the W LAN controller, but after that things go sideways. The LAP is pulling a valid IP address from DHCP, and the W LAN Controller is able to ping it.
In the controller's AP Join Statistics we get this:
Last AP Message Decryption Failure
Last AP Connection Failure -Timed out while waiting for ECHO repsonse from the AP
Last AP Disconnect Reason
[code]...
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May 11, 2011
I have my wlc 4400 configured with a secure wlan and a guest wlan. The guest wlan is switching traffic at the wlc to a separate guest-wlan interface. When a guest is associated and authenticated, they can access the management console of the wlc which is in a different subnet. As I understand, the wlc does not route traffic. So how could this be happening? the guest subnet and the subnet the wlc management interface is in are different and separated by a firewall. I have also tried applying access lists in the wlc to each interface without luck. How can i stop the wlc from providing access to guest wlan users?
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Sep 18, 2011
My company has chosen to allow our employees to bring in and use their own personal electronic devices such as i Pads, i Phones, tablet PC's, etc... We intend to allow them to access our network with these devices. My question is if an employee decides to enable a WiFi hotspot on an iPhone, i Pad or other device and then share out that network connection we have provided to them to allow other devices to tether to it, how do we prevent or mitigate this issue with our W LAN environment?
Our current environment consists of 4400 series WLC's and 1131, 1231 and 1242 series AP's using version 7.098.218 code. We plan on migrating to 5500 series WLC's and 3500 series AP's but this will not happen overnight.
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Sep 12, 2012
I am getting this error on our Cisco 5500 switch. What it means
2012 Sep 13 14:49:37 PDT -07:00 %SPANTREE-2-RX_1QNONTRUNK: Rcved 1Q-BPDU on non-trunk port 3/20 vlan 72
2012 Sep 13 14:49:37 PDT -07:00 %SPANTREE-2-RX_1QPVIDERR: Rcved pvid_inc BPDU on 1Q port 3/20 vlan 72
2012 Sep 13 14:49:37 PDT -07:00 %SPANTREE-2-RX_BLKPORTPVID: Block 3/20 on rcving vlan 72 for inc peer vlan 235
2012 Sep 13 14:49:37 PDT -07:00 %SPANTREE-2-PORTUNBLK: Unblock previously inc port 3/20 on VLAN 72
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Jun 10, 2013
I would like to setup a 2504 to have one Guest WLAN and one Staff WLAN with a controller port for each WLAN connected to different devices.
I would prefer to connect the WLC Guest port to an ASA 5510 and the WLC Staff port to an internal 2960S switch. Will this work? I haven't setup a 2500 series controller previously.
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May 16, 2013
We are working with a contractor to upgrade our network, and I heard from them that the 5596/5548 might not need the Layer 3 module for our inter-VLAN routhing. They have yet to give me an answer.
We do have a few static routes on our current layer-3, core switch too.
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Sep 9, 2012
I have been tasked by my boss of finding out and implementing a solution of building GRE tunnels from 2 4408 Wireless controllers system for a guest wireless network. I am but a low CCNA wireless, working on getting motivated for CCNP wireless, but I didn't even know if this was possible and if it was where to begin. I have been reading configuration guides but figure I should ask the wireless experts of the world of Cisco.
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Dec 6, 2011
Our controller get freezing every week at least twice, and do not know what is the reason. I am attaching the log for you to look at it. Last time happened was yesterday at around 13.00 pm.
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May 2, 2013
I am read this cisco document Cisco Catalyst 3850 Switch Services Guide
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which describe that
L2 roam occurs when the user roams from an access point connected to its controller to a different access point connected to another controller, where the two controllers are L2 adjacent to each other.
L3 roam occurs when the user roams from an access point connected to its controller to a different access point connected to another controller, where the two controllers are L3 adjacent to each other.
so what exactly this mean the two controllers are L2/L3 adjacent to each other , what is the different between them.
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Aug 6, 2012
I am configuring two 2504 controllers, which I ordered together, however they run different software versions and I don't have a contract/ login to download wlan controller software from the Cisco website. The one with the newest version runs 7.2.103.0 while the other one runs 7.0.220.0 I want to run them together in the same subnet and use them for redundancy (10 AP's will connect).
Is there a way I can download the software from the controller, just like I am able to do with an ASA firewall? Then I can upload it to the controller with the older software version.
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Mar 10, 2013
I am setting up two 5508 controllers, one in HA mode, and one the primary for the remote sites in question. I plan to have these units service wireless for MPLS conected regional sites (each with their own local subnet). I was planning on using the cabled hosts network in each site for the wifi addressing and was thinking a different addressing for Guest Access, is this common? I'm obviously concerned with guest access clients but don't know enough how their trafiic is segregated from normal wifi traffic.
Also, when I stand up the controllers the management interface and ap-manager won't be in the same network as where the hosts or LWAP's will reside (routing access will exist though).
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Jun 11, 2013
We have 2 Cisco 5508 WLCs, each wtih 50 licenses. What I would like to do is split the 50 odd APs between the 2 controllers load balancing the traffic. If a controller goes down or there is a break in the path all APs would failover to their configured secondary controller. So far so good.
However there seems to be no way to 'replicate' the configurations between controllers unless I setup HA , but as I understand it HA is Active /Passive, so essentially, unless you get a failover situaltion, completely 'redundant'.
Is there a way or either replicating between controllers automatically with out HA, or is there a way of making HA Active / Active?
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Sep 1, 2011
I have two 5508 and one WCS server, the controllers are in one mobility group.Now I have to change the management IP addresses on the controllers. What are the correct steps to do this?
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Aug 12, 2012
I'm looking into upgrading our 4400 series controller to 5508's. Currently we have a few sites that have 8-9 4404 100AP controllers and I'm looking to condense these down to either 3 5508-500 or 5 5508-250 depending on cost. I'm wondering what a good port to AP ratio is for controllers with licenses that can handle over 100 AP's. I know the general rule of thumb is 25 AP's per port, but that seems to me to be 4400 way of thinking. I'm trying to also reduce the controllers overall footprint, i.e. ports on the uplink switch, power consumption, rack space etc.
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Aug 28, 2012
I am planning to move our WLC's (5508) from a branch site to HQ so that all branch site APs will just report centrally in the HQ. There are two WLCs working as Active/Standby. Plan is to move one then the other. I am not really inclined with wireless.
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Aug 1, 2012
--- I have 2 WLC's 5500 that I have to set up on my network with the same configuration except I am not sure that they can be load balanced.
-- My only thought is to take a full class C and on each WLC set up a /25, thus each device can provision 120 IP's
--- This seems a bit archaeic, but is there anything else smarter to do? Can they be load balanced?
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Jun 21, 2012
We are installing a set of 5508 controllers at one site in Tennessee. At another divisional site we have another controller that covers that division.
Both sites utilize the same DNS structure and would like to use the DNS entry CISCO- CAPWAP- CONTROLLER entry for bringing new AP onto the controllers at their sites, how would we go about configuring this?
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