2 Networks With Routers - Can't Have DHCP On Both?
Jun 14, 2011
Can I run two networks, ie 192.168.1.xxx & 192.168.2.xxx, on the same switches. Certain PCs on the network will be set up for .
1 and others .
2. Each network would have its own router. I know I can't have DHCP on both routers,
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Feb 16, 2013
I am currently working on a project that needs to install a router (or just a network device) that can offer 2 or more DHCP networks. We have been searching a network device for this but haven't gotten any good news yet. Any model or device that can fulfill this requirement?
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Aug 4, 2012
we have 2 DHCP controlled networks at our work:
Network 1: Transparent EOC connection to Internet. Directly behind the EOC box is a router using a static (WAN) address provided from our ISP. Internally, the router uses DHCP (LAN) to manage a 192.168.1.x network. All computers on this network are using 192.168.1.x addresses via DHCP from that router - (rather, they should be). We use this for Internet access, office computers, a POS server and our POS systems. Mostly windows xp and some win 7 systems. Server is Windows 2008 server, but is not controlling DHCP nor a domain. It's just a Win 2008 computer on the network running as a "virtual box" on a VMware-based server.
Network 2: Comes in on a separate DSL line. This DSL modem is set up as a bridge. The router behind the bridge is using a static IP block (8 static IP addresses, 5 usable) from our ISP. Internally, this router uses DHCP (LAN) to manage a 175.69.10.x network (or some address similar to that). All machines on this network are using 175.69.10.x addresses via DHCP from the 2nd router. There is external VPN access to this network via one of the static IP addresses. This is routed correctly. This is Primarily a Linux network controlling several linux based machines. So, someone decided to "bridge" these two networks by simply plugging each network into the same central switch via Cat 5 cable.
The first problem we had (of course) was that the DHCP servers conflicted immediately, so we had to set half of this "mongrel" network to static IPs like 192.168.1.x, and the other computers are getting their addresses via DHCP from the 176.68.1.x network router. The second router keeps "resetting" the network, causing IP address problems on the first network, screwing up our POS system in the process. But we still need to access the linux machines on network 2 (via http) from the machines on network 1.The goal is to be able to be sitting at machine 192.168.1.x on one network, open a web browser, type in a 175.69.10.x address on the other network and have the linux web-based application come up from the machine on the second network. (We may need more services bridged besides just http.)Putting both networks on the EOC connection controlled by a single router is NOT an option.
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Aug 4, 2012
We have 2 DHCP controlled networks at our work:
Network 1: EOC connection. We use this for Internet access, office computers, a POS server and our POS systems. Mostly windows xp and some win 7 systems. Server is Windows 2008 server, but is not controlling DHCP nor a domain. It's just a computer on the network. Directly behind the EOC box is a router using DHCP to manage a 192.168.1.x network. All computers on this network are using 192.168.1.x addresses via DHCP.
Network 2: Comes in on a separate DSL line. Primarily a Linux network controlling several linux based machines. This network has it's own router behind the DSL modem managing DHCP using 175.69.1.x (or something close to that) addresses.
Someone decided to "bridge" these networks by simply plugging each network into the same switch via Cat 5 cable. Bad idea.
The first problem we had (of course) was that the DHCP servers conflicted immediately, so we had to set half of this "mongrel" network to static IPs like 192.168.1.x, and the other computers are getting their addresses via DHCP from the 176.68.1.x network router.
This works - badly. The second router keeps "resetting" the server address on network 1, screwing up our POS systems. But we still need to access the linux machines on network 2 (via http) from the office machines on network 1.
I am thinking the solution to this issue is to place a 3rd router as a bridge between the two networks. Is this correct?
The goal is to be able to be sitting at machine 192.168.1.x on one network, open a web browser, type in a 176.67.1.x address and have the linux web-based application come up from the other network.
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Apr 20, 2011
i was trying connecting two LAN network on different location.
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Mar 3, 2013
I want to connect 2 routers like this picture.No need to have it as separate networks.
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i have two linksys wireless router on different networks that i want to connect. how do i go about it?
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Jul 13, 2011
My network routing (both routers are consumer-grade NETGEAR WNDR3700) is like this:
Modem ==> Router 1 ==> Router 2 WAN Port
I have Router 1 set to DHCP the entire home network. I want Router 2 to section off a web server from the home network in case it gets compromised, but I want computers on the home network to be able to administer the web server.
As it stands, the web server can access PCs on Router 1, and not vice-versa. In effect, I want this to be reversed. Can this be done without changing the physical configuration?
All right, I bit the bullet and switched the router chain so Router 2 comes before Router 1. Set up was so easy and though it's not perfect, it's all ready!
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Jan 4, 2011
One of our office´s PC is connected to the network and shows 2 networks, but we have only one modem and one router....and no internet access only in that computer. I had restarted, disconnected, shut down and nothing.....what can I do? I also connected it to another cable form other computer working correctly and didn´t work.
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Aug 6, 2011
My workplace currently has one AD Forest. Slowly we have drifted in to two slightly separate businesses and my boss wants us to create a new AD Forest and segregate the users doing each business. Although we will all be in the same office, each side will authenticate to a different DC. The problem is, that we have some resources that still need to be shared and I would like to share them as eloquently as possible without converging the networks too much. The two networks will be in the same server rack but they will logically appear as this:Forest1.local (original)
-Cable Internet -- Router A (192.168.1.x) -- 48-port switch A -- PC/Phones/Domain Controller AForest2.local (new)
-Cable Internet -- Router B (10.1.1.x) -- 48-port switch B -- PC/Phones/Domain Controller B.
The problem I have is that the users in the "new" network need access to a shared folder, shared customer DB, and shared printers on the original Domain Controller, named "DC A" above. I have complete control over both networks but cant figure it out the best way.My main concern is physical access between the networks. How will a pc on the 10.1.1.x network know where printer 192.168.1.2 is? I thought about creating a forest trust in order to assign proper permission but how will they resolve the names on a different subnets? The two "routers" are just simple SOHO type routers so I cant do much there. I thought about connecting the two switches together but don't know if that would work. Wouldn't the data just get passed to the default gateway (router) anyway. The router would then just drop it. I also though about using the 2nd NIC in each DC and connecting them in each other's subnet. But again Im not sure if it matters if the DC's can reach each other or if the PC's would have to be able to reach the other subnet etc. I also thought about just creating some kind of VPN (hamagachi) or whatever to go out into the internet then back into the other router to the network.The problem is wouldnt every computer wanting to access the shared folder have to have this setup. I would like to limit setting things up on workstations and just limit config to the DC's if possible.I basically just want users in subnet two to be able to map a drive and access printers on DC in subnet one.
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I have tried the guest wifi partition setting, however it still allows access to the lan devices on the first router. It does partition with the second router properly though, but thats not worth anything to me cause there are no lan devices on the 2nd router.
Would it work right if I turn the 2nd router into a access point, disable the dhcp server, and set it up with the guest wifi partition?
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Play Max N600 HD (F7D4301) Dual network operation - on behind Belkins firewall. I have just changed the structure of my network for reasons of additional services being added. I now have in the front room the ADSL modem connected to a switch and 2 PC's. The switch is also pbugged into an ethernet plug in the wall which feeds to the other end of the house where the Belkin router is. I have all devices working on the internet correctly. The issue is getting access between the two networks and the devices on the two networks. I have added the ip addresses of the PC's to the router's LAN/Static Route, but that didn't work. The network in front room (after ADSL Modem is 192.168.1.x and after Belkin router it is 192.168.2.x. Is there a way I can allow access between the two networks between devices?
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Jan 29, 2013
I have a network set up between two buildings. Each building has its own internet connection and DHCP server, building A using an RV180W router and building B using a linksys product. A WDS bridge has been set up between the two buildings using two wireless access points.The goal here is to allow clients in either building to be assigned an IP from their respective DHCP server (and thereby use that building's internet connection), yet still access network resources (eg file storage, printer, etc.) in the other building should the need arise.I have tried to set this up by having the RV180 assign IP's in the range 192.168.0.xxx to its clients in building A, and the linksys to assign IP's in the range 192.168.1.xxx in building B. I have enabled Vlan 1 and Vlan 2 on the RV180 - vlan 1 runs a DHCP server for building A. Vlan 2 runs no DHCP server and is directly connected to the WDS bridge to building B. Inter Vlan routing is enabled on both Vlan 1 and Vlan 2.On the WDS bridge modules, ive assigned both static IP's in the 192.168.1.xxx range (vlan 2 range). I've specified their dns and default gateway as 192.168.1.2 which is the static address for the RV180 in vlan 2.From a PC in vlan 1, I can ping and access the webgui for the WDS bridge modules which are in Vlan 2. However, i cannot ping any other computer in Vlan 2 which is set to accept a dynamic IP from the DHCP server operating in Building B. I assume this is because the WDS modules point to the RV180 as their default gateway and dns server, while the clients that have accepted a dynamic IP from the building B DHCP point to that device as their default gateway and DNS.I am considering trying changing the DNS and default gateway on the building B side of the WDS bridge to the building B values to see if that works, but am concerned i would lose all connectivity to the webgui from building A if i do that.
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I'm an architect working in a small office that happens to be home to two seperate businesses, each with their owner network. However, these two networks want to use the same large format printer. I recently purchased the RV180W since the Cisco representative told me i would be able to connect both networks to the router so they can both see the printer without seeing the files on each of the other networks. We simply want to share the same printer.
Network 1:
192.168.4.1
Network 2
192.168.2.1
Large Format Printer
192.168.4.151
Network 1 has the RV180W as it's router with three gigabit switches. Computers and peripherals are connected to the three switches. 1 port open on the last switch.
I want to configure the RV180W to see both 192.168.4.1 and 192.168.2.1
What settings need to be modifed in order to accomplish this? Do I need more equipment? Is it easier to put a wireless card in one of the computers on the 192.168.2.1 network and then set it to see the 192.168.4.1 network?
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I am setting up a customer site. One side is RV180W and the other side is Checkpoint 500W.
RV180W side
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Checkpoint side
LAN - 172.26.1.0/24
VOIP - 172.26.2.0/24
Need to setup an ipsec tunnel between the site. However, from the RV180W side, I can only ping the VOIP network, but not LAN. I have heard that RV180W only can talk to one remote network via ipsec, correct? workaround this other than changing out the RV180W?
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Nov 2, 2011
I have two private networks and want/need to route traffic between them. I also have an ISP connection and want/need to provide internet to at least one of the private networks. Providing internet access to both is not required or desired.
Can this be accomplished with an RV042? If so, how?
P.s. The problem space, once again, in a non-narrative form with some addresses thrown in:
Private Network A: 192.168.200.0/24
Private Network B: 10.50.3.96/27
ISP Network C: 192.168.0.0/24 192.168.0.1GW 192.168.0.2 is WAN1 address on RV042
Required Traffic Flow
A <--> B
A ---> C
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Sep 14, 2012
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Feb 27, 2012
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After online research, and the inability to find my exact question answered, this is what I did and I'd like to know if I'm missing anything to keep A and B completely separate. Or, if I've done anything that will cause any problems on my network. [code]
I disabled the ability to change settings using wireless connection on both routers.
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Dec 12, 2012
I am trying to set up two routers so that I can offer free wireless connectivity via three AP's in three adjoining rooms on a first floor and secured wireless and wired network connectivity in upstairs offices. The setup is like this:
Verizon DSL connectivity..static IP
The gateway modem/router is a Verizon DLink DSL 2750B with three ports connecting to three wired Access Points in three first floor adjoining rooms, and the 4th port connecting to a Cisco E1200 (wireless and ethernet router) located next to the Verizon Dlink. I would like the Verizon DLink to give open wireless connectivity via the access points and also connect to the adjacent E1200 router.
I would like the Cisco E1200 to offer secured wireless and ethernet connectivity to the upstairs offices. (connecterd to the Cisco E1200 is a 24 port Netgear switch.)I have spent considerable time talking with Verizon and Cisco/Linksys but have not been successful in just how to set this up.A former tech actually did have this setup but for what ever reason the settings were reset to factory defaults with no written record as to the necessary settings.
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Mar 21, 2011
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Aug 1, 2012
I just tried replacing a cheap domestic router/switch with an RVS4000 V2 on our work network. This has a WAN connection to a cable modem for internet access via a dynamic IP address.
When I first connected the RVS4000 it got a WAN ip address via DHCP of 192.168.100.11. This is the type of IP address we get when there is an upstream problem with our ISPs cable network, and sure enough we had no internet access. The RVS4000 was set to use DHCP on the WAN interface. So I logged a support call with our ISP but they said there were no problems at their end.
I then swapped the RVS4000 out for the original router. This worked fine and got a WAN DHCP address of 77.xxx.yyy.zzz as it should. Swapped back to the RVS4000 and back to the same problem of getting a 192.168... address.
So, I downloaded the latest firmware from Cisco, which was V2.0.3.2 and flashed the RVS4000.
I then tried again connecting the RVS4000 to the cable modem but this time it would not get any WAN DHCP address at all. On the Status/Gateway page of the web interface it said that the WAN interface was down. However, on the front panel there was a yellow light indicating a live connection on the internet port.
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Oct 25, 2011
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Jan 2, 2013
I have a Cisco RV220W router (firmware version 1.0.4.17).
I would like to have two separate networks with the following specifications:
Netwrork1: address range for the network is 192.168.0.1-254. All devices should be able to reach eachother within this network and connect to the internet either on LAN or through Wifi. From this network I should also be able to reach the device management page of the router. Also the devices should get the ip addresses throgh DHCP.
Network2: address range for the network is 192.168.5.1-254. All devices within this network should not be able to reach the devices in network1. All devices on this network should reach the internet through Wifi only. Device management page should not be available on this network.
I have configured the router as shown in the attached screenshots but the problem is that in Network2, devices get IPs from the 192.168.0.1-254 range and not from the 192.168.5.1-254 range. Also there is no internet on these either.
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