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A customer reported that their router experienced spikes (high cpu utilization) every 4 hours and claims that it is caused by snmp polling of the Ciscoworks server.

The process SNMP engine is the process that causes these spikes .We think that the job responsible of this periodic high CPU utilization. It's called "Vrf Collector Job" and it's runnning every 4 hours.Below the result of show stack PID and show version
  
*Sep  5 12:02:43.230 GMT+1: %SYS-1-CPURISINGTHRESHOLD: Threshold: Total CPU Utilization(Total/Intr): 56%/14%, Top 3 processes(Pid/Util):  557/39%, 488/1%, 555/0%
 *Sep  5 12:02:43.286 GMT+1: %HA_EM-4-LOG: CPUTH:
 Process 557:  SNMP ENGINE
   Stack segment 0x1CFC204C - 0x1CFC4F2C

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PID Runtime(ms)     Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
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