Cisco Wireless :: WAP4410N As WDS Repeater With Same SSID As AP
Nov 14, 2010
I have a wap4410n acting as AP and a second wap4410n acting as wds repeater.
I've only managed to get the wds repeater to work when it has a different ssid to that of the ap - I'd like the wds repeater to have the same ssid as the ap, should things work in this configuration?
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Jul 20, 2010
I would like to ask for assistance on how to configure one unit WAP4410N access point to work as repeater to one unit WRT120N wireless router.
As a background, I had one WRT120N already in my house before I bought one WAP4410N as advised by a Linksys guy. I wanted to wirelessly extend the signal of my WRT120N wherever its signal is so low around my house. The WAP4410N should work as repeater to WRT120N.
I already configured WAP4410N to work as repeater by enabling all the choices in its wireless AP mode like the “wireless WDS repeater” and the “wireless client/repeater” but to no avail. I successfully setup a similar scenario before using the old pair of one WRT54G and one WAP54G. I replaced the old pair with the newer one ( WRT120N and one WAP4410N).
Is the tandem of WAP4410N and WRT120N can be configured technically as like as what I wanted? Do I need to upgrade the firmware of both devices? Did I miss something in the configuration?
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Mar 9, 2011
We have a WAP4410N as a Access Point and a second WAP4410N as a Wireless WDS Repeater. The settings are as of below.
We couldn't get the mobile users to get connected to the Access Point. But if we uncheck the option "Allow wireless signal to be repeated by a repeater.", it works.
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Dec 10, 2012
I would like to provide WiFi in a big house of 4 floors so I have installed 1 WAP4410N wired to the Internet router to act as access point and I have configured 3 others WAP4410N as WDS repeater of the first one.In the first one (the AP), I have checked the option "Allow Wireless Signal to be repeated by a repeater" then entered the 3 repeaters' MAC addresses as allowed devices to repeat the signal.
Is that configuration OK ? Is there any way to add another (a fourth) repeater to this configuration ? Because there is only 3 fields to specify allowed repeaters' MAC addresses in the AP.
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Mar 7, 2011
I have a WRT160N and a WAP4410N but can not get WAP function as a repeater. I have already put as Wireless Client / Repeater and Wireless WDS Repeater. I notice they are both with the same settings security. View attach file.
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Sep 4, 2012
configuration WAP4410n.I configure 1 wap4410n mode access point, is ok.I place 6 wap4410n in building as wireless repeater.I can not configure the right sequence.How do I set up 6 repeaters with access point ?
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Apr 20, 2011
Currently I have a WAP4410N setup and would like to add a second WAP4410N but as wireless repeater. I want my users to have wireless access without the need to keep changing the wireless connection based on their location within the factory.
The AP Mode on teh WAP4410N gives me the options below, but I am not sure which one is the correct one:
Option 1 - Wireless WDS Repeater
Option 2 - Wireless Client/Repeater
Below is the link from cisco with explanation. [URL]
Also, if have WAP54G, can I setup this unit to be a wireless repeater with the WAP4410N devices? or all repeaters must be of the same model? Existing WAP4410 is setup to operate at Wireless B/G Mixed mode.
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Apr 20, 2011
I need setting up a WAP4410n v 2.0.1.0 as a repeater. Warning, this is the first time I have worked with a repeater. I have tested with a netgear router and a Linksys 160n router. Unfortunately I only have the netgear to continue testing with since the Linksys is at my customer’s site. I can get my hands on a Linksys E3200 if I have to. I have tried a number of setting combinations and I still cannot get the signal to be repeated. So this is what I think the setup should be:I setup the router and the WAP4410n repeater to have the same ssid and channel. For security I first tried to have both the router and the repeater to use WPA2 personal using TKIP then I read that there is a problem using WPA2 with version 2 of the firmware so I then tried using WEP having both the router and repeater using the same key. I selected Wireless WDS repeater mode. I did a site survey and selected my router. Now from what I understand, which is very little, this is all I should really need to do. I have left all of the other settings to the default values. So what am I missing?
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Apr 6, 2011
i have WRT120N and WAP4410N, can i config WAP4410N to be repeater to repeat signal from WRT120N??if it can't, could you tell me what kind of wireless router that compatible with WAP4410N?
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Apr 30, 2011
Setting up a WAP4410n v 2.0.1.0 as a repeater. Warning, this is the first time I have worked with a repeater. I have tested with a netgear router and a Linksys 160n router. Unfortunately I only have the netgear to continue testing with since the Linksys is at my customer's site. I can get my hands on a Linksys E3200 if I have to. I have tried a number of setting combinations and I still cannot get the signal to be repeated. So this is what I think the setup should be: I setup the router and the WAP4410n repeater to have the same ssid and channel. For security I first tried to have both the router and the repeater to use WPA2 personal using TKIP then I read that there is a problem using WPA2 with version 2 of the firmware so I then tried using WEP having both the router and repeater using the same key. I selected Wireless WDS repeater mode. I did a site survey and selected my router. Now from what I understand, which is very little, this is all I should really need to do. I have left all of the other settings to the default values.
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Apr 26, 2011
i'm having WAG320N Linksys by Cisco , connected & working properly i need to connect 2 WAP4410 N to the router through wireless ( not wired )
i've did the same SSID same security same everything tried all the possible settings but it's not working as a repeater i've read the blogs & found that some people talking about new beta firmware i've tried to find it out to try but i didnt find it any where
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May 17, 2011
I just bought WAP4410N from about 3 days ago, I would like it to work as a wireless repeater to my 3com router model 3CRWDR100A-72. In the router setup page I enabled WDS, made a search for the wireless networks and I found the WAP signal and the router already got its MAC address. I went to AP mode in the WAP4410N, enabled the WDS repeater and made a site search for the router and got its SSID and MAC address.
Although all the above steps, everytime I connect any client to the WAP4410N I can not connect to the internet, all what I got is just the IP of the WAP and subnetmask without any default gateway nor DNS
In addition I tried to setup the WAP as wireless client epeater, but the same thing hapen, I can not connect to the internet through the WAP.
I am using WPA encryption on the router but I did not get any notification to enter the pass key during the setup of the WAP, which is strange for me!
Do I have to change my 3com router to linksys one as the 3com is not compatible with the WAP?
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Sep 21, 2010
I also have problems with this type of accespoint, i have 2 (one in AP mode and the other in Client/Repeater mode).
Very often the connection between the pc and the repeater, and also between the 2 accespoints just "drops" out (like its resetting itself).
The accespoints are in enough range of eachother, so thats not the problem.
After the contact with Cisco here in Holland they said this type (4410N) is not stable with the 2.0.0.5 firmware, and its also limited to the B and G (not N) wireless, because else the accespoint will be even less stable??.
When can we expect a propper solution to this Cisco problem?
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May 26, 2012
1) Apparently, my Cisco modem likes to assign new IP addresses to things, so I didn't figure out the web access page until an hour in (was NOT 192.168.1.245)
2) Do I input the same IP address, subnet, DNS and default gateway as my Cisco modem? It has a wireless router and switch bundled in, should I use the wireless network's MAC address or the wired?
Currently, it's set to 'automatically configure':
IPv4
Local IP Address: 192.xxx.x.xx
Subnet Mask: 255.xxx.xxx.x
Default Gateway: 192.xxx.x.x
Primary DNS: 64.xx.xxx.xxx
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
I can access the page fine, but I cannot get the wireless client working...
3) I did a site survey and found my existing network and inputted its SSID and MAC address, but nothing happens. I still get one bar on my wireless devices indicating the AP isn't working.
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Sep 21, 2010
I have just been escalated to Level 3 support about my bridging issues.Bridge / Repeater mode configuration separated by 150 feet. Worked perfect for over 3 months.Upgraded firmware due to lockups starting to happen, now cant get the bridge / repeater to work longer than 15 min.After MANY support calls, new devices sent (version 2's) still no luck.
Talked to Marcelo at1 866 606 1866 and he stated that the Bridge / Repeater mode will not be supported farther than 50 Feet.(seems like a cop out to me) He didn't seem to have an answer as to why it worked for 3 Months other than interference Of which I have ran spectrum analyzers and see no Interference. **** even 10 feet away I cant get the units to work longer than 15 min.So I definitely think the 50 foot thing is a BS answer.
Also they have told me that External Antennas are not supported with these devices.Again even though People 500 feet away connect just perfect (without a bridge / repeater mode) with 50% coverage!
so here I am (spent 600 bucks) on bricks.. and nobody will support the device and I cant seem to get my money back.I have 8 customers with these devices, I am not going to use Cisco any longer. However will continue to fight this,as we all seem to have the same BS issues.
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Dec 21, 2010
Can a WAP4410N be used as a repeater on an existing WPA2 + EAP-TLS WLAN? The existing WLAN is on a Cisco 871W router; we hope to use a WAP4410N as a repeater to extend it.
I've not had much luck so far with the "repeater" and "WDS repeater" AP modes on the 4410. I'm either configuring it wrong, or perhaps the 871W needs a config tweak? Or perhaps the 871's wireless can't be repeated like this?
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Oct 12, 2011
I can't configure the SSID more than one in the web UI of the WAP4410N. Except I can type the first SSID1, the rest SSID2 - 4 are grey which not allow me to type in anything. ( See attached the screen shot ) My current version is 2.02.1 and I was using IE8 under windows 7.
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Feb 22, 2012
I have a 4410N set up on my network. I'm using 4 VLANs on my network, of which, I use my default VLAN 1, as the "public" VLAN which we use to give our clients free WiFi. I would like to have two SSIDs visible from the access point, one unsecured and connected to VLAN 1, and the other secured with WPA2 and connected to our office VLAN on which various servers and resources are available. My preference is for both SSIDs to be visible, as there is not a major security issue and as the only IT person, I do not have time to configure every computer which uses the network with the SSID, but I'll do that if I have to.
I set up the 4410N with it's first SSID using our public WiFi name and did not put any security on it. I went to the VLAN page and set it to use VLAN 1 as both the default VLAN and the VLAN for the first SSID. Then I went back to the Basic Settings page and added a second SSID and chose "Enabled". I went to the Security page and left most things as default (Wireless Isolation between SSIDs is enabled) and changed the security settings for the office SSID to WPA2-Personal. Finally I went to the VLAN page and set it's VLAN to 4.
When I go back to my computer, or from other wireless devices, I only see the public SSID, not the office. I do see on my computer (Win7 x64) an "Other Network" option, but the signal strength on that network is significatnly weaker than that of the public SSID. Also, if I try to connect to it using the office SSID name and the password I set, it doesn't connect.
Am I completely misunderstanding how multiple SSIDs are supposed to work? I am working from a lot of assumptions here.
PS I have no clue if this would affect it, but in the interest of listing all possible factors, the 4410N is powered via PoE and the switch port it is connected to is set to 802.1Q with 1-4 set as the VLANs.
After posting this I discovered that in the Wireless Status page, both SSIDs are listed, but only one (the public SSID) has a MAC listed. I assume I need to add one somewhere. Where should I do this, and what's a "safe" MAC to use that won't conflict with anything?
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Sep 8, 2009
Looking to setup 3-4 WAP4410N AP's but only want to use 1 SSID and one set of keys if possible.
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Dec 7, 2009
I have purchased 4 of these devices about 2 months ago and have experienced all of the issues reported within this thread. The came with the 2.0.0.5 FW rev installed, so unless the 2.0.0.5 on the cisco DL site is different, nothing I can do with that.I've tried making them work as stand alone AP's, Bridge<-> Bridge, etc... all modes seem to lock up eventually needing a reboot to get any functionality back.Ultimately, I need to make them work in AP<->Client-Repeater mode. I've not been successful in making them work in any mode for a prolonged period of time.
having just rfound this thread today, I have not tried hard coding the NIC's to 100/full, but will give it a try. If it works, great, but then that would defeat the purpose of buying an N radio AP. I would like the potential 300Mbps throughput.
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Jun 15, 2011
Does Cisco WAP4410N work as repeater for Linksys E4200 ?i have Linksys E4200 and I need repeater for it.
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Mar 22, 2013
How to use WAP4410N repeater Router Mode RV180W wireless network. until now it's still not working.
And the bottom line is I want keep RV180W in Router Mode,not WDS Bridge or WDS Repeater mode.
During the search I find that WAP4410N WDS Repeater is not compatible with RV180W,but I'm not sure about that, so how to configure it
My goal is use two WAP4410N expand RV180W Wifi Range that can cover the dead spot in my office.
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Jun 2, 2010
We just got a WAP4410n and cant seem to get multiple SSID's to show up when searching for them.Only SSID1 shows up in Kismet or any other type of Wifi detector software, is it supposed to be like this?I would imagine that it should display both SSID's
-Mynetwork1
-Mynetwork2
Instead of just Mynetwork1, I have tried everything i can think of to connect to the second one but nothing seems to work.
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Nov 15, 2011
I have a WAP4410n which has been configured with a single SSID since implementation several weeks ago with no issues. I am now trying to add a second SSID and not having any success. Originally the second SSID was not being assigned a MAC address and thus not being broadcasted. After upgrading firmware to 2.0.4.2 I now see a MAC address associated with second SSID and it is being seen by clients, but they still cannot connect. I reset the AP to default settings and reconfigured from scratch but still no luck. I have two of these APs, the other one is still at FW rev 2.0.1.0 and has same issue (it does have MAC address associated with second SSID so I didn't bother upgrading firmware yet).
I have tried a few different authetication options, including disabling authentication, to no avail. Question - I do not see an IP address associated with the second SSID - is that the problem and if so, how do I fix that?
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Jul 3, 2011
i set up the WAP4410N and it can be connected with our router. But it's not protected by our password, but once i have set the password of WAP4410N by changing the security mode to WEP, now i will prompted to password when I connect the AP, but it shows limited connectivity, I can't even access my local LAN resources at all.
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Jan 18, 2011
I am trying to use some WAP4410N in client mode, not much luck.In one case they shouldt connect to different unsecured networks controlled by a Cisco 5508 controller.I can get connection to one of the SSID's but not very stable.One ssid can be seen if i switch from ap-mode to client and run a sitesurvey. If i after that run a site survey again the ssid is not shown.Cant get connected. A third ssid acts "normal" but the 4410 never connects.I have a forth case, WPA2 Personal, cant connect.Been trying fw 2.0.3.3 still no succesAre client mode not usefull at all ?
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Sep 26, 2011
I have come across a new problem with our WAP4410N. I have set up multiple SSID's for various groups of people and guests at our company, the first and main SSID has set security properly at WPA2-Personal with a 63 character password. So I went ahead and setup the other 3 SSID's with the same security (just to initially get security going was planning on taking down one of them for guest account), but when I boot up my testing laptop, it shows that SSID's 2-4 have no security what-so-ever.
I have re-checked my settings in the Wireless Security tab and they are all still set with the passwords.
I am using: PID VID: WAP4410N-A V02Software Version: 2.0.4.2.
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Dec 20, 2010
I am trying to setup an E3000 router and extending the network with a WAP4410N acting as a repeater.
I am faced with the same problem and it looks like it all comes down to this: without the WAP4410N having a physical connection to the LAN, it will not connect to the E3000 as a wireless client whether it's configured in AP mode: WDS Repeater or in client/repeater.
I've tested with various permutations that have been explored in the various discussions: matching channels/bandsmatching and non-matching SSIDs matching security settings using site survey to set the mac address of the E3000 (ensuring it's the MAC of the 2.4Ghz wireless)setting a static IP on the WAP4410Nensuring both devices are on the same subnet. Any way to be truly successful with this pair up of E3000 & WAP4410N or is it simply a technical product limitation?
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Jun 30, 2012
From the broadband modem/router connected with a Gigabit 8 port unmanaged switch. Then, one WAP4410N is connected to the switch, wired connection for a distance of 90 meters. WAP4410N is set as an access point to the area. Then the second WAP4410N will be run as a repeater to the first WAP4410N. My question is that, can we set the second WAP4410N as a repeater, without the need for it to be connected to the switch via ethernet cable.
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Sep 15, 2010
I want to extend the range for a Linksys router WRT160N. I don't have the possibility to use an access point with a wired connection. I read on this forum that can be used WAP4410N configured as repeater, without wired connection. Can someone who has used this solution to confirm that it works? What configuration should be done on the router WRT160N to permit wireless signal to be repeated by WAP4410N?
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Oct 12, 2011
I have AP1 setup with WPA2-Enterprise. How would I setup AP2 (WAP4410N) to be a repeater for AP1?
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Apr 18, 2012
Im having problems with setting up my cisco WAP4410N as a repeater to extend the signal of cisco E2500.It works fine when there is no password to be set on both devices. But when either one of these devices had beenset a password on it, then WAP4410N failed to extend the signal of E2500.
I tried steps as below:
1. Same password type in WAP4410N and E2500.
2. Different password type in WAP4410N and E2500.
3. Set password in WAP4410N ONLY.
4. Set password in E2500 ONLY.
All steps above makes WAP4410N fail to extend the signal range of E2500. WAP4410N successfully works as a repeater to extend the signal of E2500 when there is no password to be set on both devices.
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Jul 19, 2011
I bought my self a WRT120N as my wireless router for my house. and not a long ago i bought the WAP4410N, for my repeater (after i ask to some people).my house were concrete wall, it have about 15-20cm thick, and we try to avoid any wired LAN. The destinaton were unreachable with only WRT120N.it's look like this (what i want for the network on my home) : [code] i already tried to setting the WAP4410 as a wireless WDS repeater, and wireless client/repeater (with and without "Allow wireless stations to associate"). both were unable to connect (limited), although i get the signal. for the IP on the WAP4410N (192.168.0.50), i used static IP [IP, Subnet and Default Gateway were fill in] within the WRT120N range (192.168.0.2 ->192.168.0.51)
- how i configure my WAP4410N as a repeater?
- is there any settings that i must set on the WRT120N, before combining the WAP4410N?
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