Cisco Wireless :: Sometime WAP4410N Drops In Repeater Or AP Mode
Sep 21, 2010
I also have problems with this type of accespoint, i have 2 (one in AP mode and the other in Client/Repeater mode).
Very often the connection between the pc and the repeater, and also between the 2 accespoints just "drops" out (like its resetting itself).
The accespoints are in enough range of eachother, so thats not the problem.
After the contact with Cisco here in Holland they said this type (4410N) is not stable with the 2.0.0.5 firmware, and its also limited to the B and G (not N) wireless, because else the accespoint will be even less stable??.
When can we expect a propper solution to this Cisco problem?
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May 26, 2012
1) Apparently, my Cisco modem likes to assign new IP addresses to things, so I didn't figure out the web access page until an hour in (was NOT 192.168.1.245)
2) Do I input the same IP address, subnet, DNS and default gateway as my Cisco modem? It has a wireless router and switch bundled in, should I use the wireless network's MAC address or the wired?
Currently, it's set to 'automatically configure':
IPv4
Local IP Address: 192.xxx.x.xx
Subnet Mask: 255.xxx.xxx.x
Default Gateway: 192.xxx.x.x
Primary DNS: 64.xx.xxx.xxx
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
I can access the page fine, but I cannot get the wireless client working...
3) I did a site survey and found my existing network and inputted its SSID and MAC address, but nothing happens. I still get one bar on my wireless devices indicating the AP isn't working.
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Sep 21, 2010
I have just been escalated to Level 3 support about my bridging issues.Bridge / Repeater mode configuration separated by 150 feet. Worked perfect for over 3 months.Upgraded firmware due to lockups starting to happen, now cant get the bridge / repeater to work longer than 15 min.After MANY support calls, new devices sent (version 2's) still no luck.
Talked to Marcelo at1 866 606 1866 and he stated that the Bridge / Repeater mode will not be supported farther than 50 Feet.(seems like a cop out to me) He didn't seem to have an answer as to why it worked for 3 Months other than interference Of which I have ran spectrum analyzers and see no Interference. **** even 10 feet away I cant get the units to work longer than 15 min.So I definitely think the 50 foot thing is a BS answer.
Also they have told me that External Antennas are not supported with these devices.Again even though People 500 feet away connect just perfect (without a bridge / repeater mode) with 50% coverage!
so here I am (spent 600 bucks) on bricks.. and nobody will support the device and I cant seem to get my money back.I have 8 customers with these devices, I am not going to use Cisco any longer. However will continue to fight this,as we all seem to have the same BS issues.
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Dec 7, 2009
I have purchased 4 of these devices about 2 months ago and have experienced all of the issues reported within this thread. The came with the 2.0.0.5 FW rev installed, so unless the 2.0.0.5 on the cisco DL site is different, nothing I can do with that.I've tried making them work as stand alone AP's, Bridge<-> Bridge, etc... all modes seem to lock up eventually needing a reboot to get any functionality back.Ultimately, I need to make them work in AP<->Client-Repeater mode. I've not been successful in making them work in any mode for a prolonged period of time.
having just rfound this thread today, I have not tried hard coding the NIC's to 100/full, but will give it a try. If it works, great, but then that would defeat the purpose of buying an N radio AP. I would like the potential 300Mbps throughput.
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Jul 20, 2010
I would like to ask for assistance on how to configure one unit WAP4410N access point to work as repeater to one unit WRT120N wireless router.
As a background, I had one WRT120N already in my house before I bought one WAP4410N as advised by a Linksys guy. I wanted to wirelessly extend the signal of my WRT120N wherever its signal is so low around my house. The WAP4410N should work as repeater to WRT120N.
I already configured WAP4410N to work as repeater by enabling all the choices in its wireless AP mode like the “wireless WDS repeater” and the “wireless client/repeater” but to no avail. I successfully setup a similar scenario before using the old pair of one WRT54G and one WAP54G. I replaced the old pair with the newer one ( WRT120N and one WAP4410N).
Is the tandem of WAP4410N and WRT120N can be configured technically as like as what I wanted? Do I need to upgrade the firmware of both devices? Did I miss something in the configuration?
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Mar 9, 2011
We have a WAP4410N as a Access Point and a second WAP4410N as a Wireless WDS Repeater. The settings are as of below.
We couldn't get the mobile users to get connected to the Access Point. But if we uncheck the option "Allow wireless signal to be repeated by a repeater.", it works.
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Dec 10, 2012
I would like to provide WiFi in a big house of 4 floors so I have installed 1 WAP4410N wired to the Internet router to act as access point and I have configured 3 others WAP4410N as WDS repeater of the first one.In the first one (the AP), I have checked the option "Allow Wireless Signal to be repeated by a repeater" then entered the 3 repeaters' MAC addresses as allowed devices to repeat the signal.
Is that configuration OK ? Is there any way to add another (a fourth) repeater to this configuration ? Because there is only 3 fields to specify allowed repeaters' MAC addresses in the AP.
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Mar 7, 2011
I have a WRT160N and a WAP4410N but can not get WAP function as a repeater. I have already put as Wireless Client / Repeater and Wireless WDS Repeater. I notice they are both with the same settings security. View attach file.
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Sep 4, 2012
configuration WAP4410n.I configure 1 wap4410n mode access point, is ok.I place 6 wap4410n in building as wireless repeater.I can not configure the right sequence.How do I set up 6 repeaters with access point ?
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Apr 20, 2011
Currently I have a WAP4410N setup and would like to add a second WAP4410N but as wireless repeater. I want my users to have wireless access without the need to keep changing the wireless connection based on their location within the factory.
The AP Mode on teh WAP4410N gives me the options below, but I am not sure which one is the correct one:
Option 1 - Wireless WDS Repeater
Option 2 - Wireless Client/Repeater
Below is the link from cisco with explanation. [URL]
Also, if have WAP54G, can I setup this unit to be a wireless repeater with the WAP4410N devices? or all repeaters must be of the same model? Existing WAP4410 is setup to operate at Wireless B/G Mixed mode.
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Apr 20, 2011
I need setting up a WAP4410n v 2.0.1.0 as a repeater. Warning, this is the first time I have worked with a repeater. I have tested with a netgear router and a Linksys 160n router. Unfortunately I only have the netgear to continue testing with since the Linksys is at my customer’s site. I can get my hands on a Linksys E3200 if I have to. I have tried a number of setting combinations and I still cannot get the signal to be repeated. So this is what I think the setup should be:I setup the router and the WAP4410n repeater to have the same ssid and channel. For security I first tried to have both the router and the repeater to use WPA2 personal using TKIP then I read that there is a problem using WPA2 with version 2 of the firmware so I then tried using WEP having both the router and repeater using the same key. I selected Wireless WDS repeater mode. I did a site survey and selected my router. Now from what I understand, which is very little, this is all I should really need to do. I have left all of the other settings to the default values. So what am I missing?
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Apr 6, 2011
i have WRT120N and WAP4410N, can i config WAP4410N to be repeater to repeat signal from WRT120N??if it can't, could you tell me what kind of wireless router that compatible with WAP4410N?
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Apr 30, 2011
Setting up a WAP4410n v 2.0.1.0 as a repeater. Warning, this is the first time I have worked with a repeater. I have tested with a netgear router and a Linksys 160n router. Unfortunately I only have the netgear to continue testing with since the Linksys is at my customer's site. I can get my hands on a Linksys E3200 if I have to. I have tried a number of setting combinations and I still cannot get the signal to be repeated. So this is what I think the setup should be: I setup the router and the WAP4410n repeater to have the same ssid and channel. For security I first tried to have both the router and the repeater to use WPA2 personal using TKIP then I read that there is a problem using WPA2 with version 2 of the firmware so I then tried using WEP having both the router and repeater using the same key. I selected Wireless WDS repeater mode. I did a site survey and selected my router. Now from what I understand, which is very little, this is all I should really need to do. I have left all of the other settings to the default values.
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Apr 26, 2011
i'm having WAG320N Linksys by Cisco , connected & working properly i need to connect 2 WAP4410 N to the router through wireless ( not wired )
i've did the same SSID same security same everything tried all the possible settings but it's not working as a repeater i've read the blogs & found that some people talking about new beta firmware i've tried to find it out to try but i didnt find it any where
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Nov 14, 2010
I have a wap4410n acting as AP and a second wap4410n acting as wds repeater.
I've only managed to get the wds repeater to work when it has a different ssid to that of the ap - I'd like the wds repeater to have the same ssid as the ap, should things work in this configuration?
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May 17, 2011
I just bought WAP4410N from about 3 days ago, I would like it to work as a wireless repeater to my 3com router model 3CRWDR100A-72. In the router setup page I enabled WDS, made a search for the wireless networks and I found the WAP signal and the router already got its MAC address. I went to AP mode in the WAP4410N, enabled the WDS repeater and made a site search for the router and got its SSID and MAC address.
Although all the above steps, everytime I connect any client to the WAP4410N I can not connect to the internet, all what I got is just the IP of the WAP and subnetmask without any default gateway nor DNS
In addition I tried to setup the WAP as wireless client epeater, but the same thing hapen, I can not connect to the internet through the WAP.
I am using WPA encryption on the router but I did not get any notification to enter the pass key during the setup of the WAP, which is strange for me!
Do I have to change my 3com router to linksys one as the 3com is not compatible with the WAP?
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Dec 21, 2010
Can a WAP4410N be used as a repeater on an existing WPA2 + EAP-TLS WLAN? The existing WLAN is on a Cisco 871W router; we hope to use a WAP4410N as a repeater to extend it.
I've not had much luck so far with the "repeater" and "WDS repeater" AP modes on the 4410. I'm either configuring it wrong, or perhaps the 871W needs a config tweak? Or perhaps the 871's wireless can't be repeated like this?
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Jun 15, 2011
Does Cisco WAP4410N work as repeater for Linksys E4200 ?i have Linksys E4200 and I need repeater for it.
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Mar 22, 2013
How to use WAP4410N repeater Router Mode RV180W wireless network. until now it's still not working.
And the bottom line is I want keep RV180W in Router Mode,not WDS Bridge or WDS Repeater mode.
During the search I find that WAP4410N WDS Repeater is not compatible with RV180W,but I'm not sure about that, so how to configure it
My goal is use two WAP4410N expand RV180W Wifi Range that can cover the dead spot in my office.
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Dec 20, 2010
I am trying to setup an E3000 router and extending the network with a WAP4410N acting as a repeater.
I am faced with the same problem and it looks like it all comes down to this: without the WAP4410N having a physical connection to the LAN, it will not connect to the E3000 as a wireless client whether it's configured in AP mode: WDS Repeater or in client/repeater.
I've tested with various permutations that have been explored in the various discussions: matching channels/bandsmatching and non-matching SSIDs matching security settings using site survey to set the mac address of the E3000 (ensuring it's the MAC of the 2.4Ghz wireless)setting a static IP on the WAP4410Nensuring both devices are on the same subnet. Any way to be truly successful with this pair up of E3000 & WAP4410N or is it simply a technical product limitation?
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Jan 19, 2012
We have a 4410N that all the time drops the connetion. We have approx 25-30 users using wireless. But when they try to connect or are connected, the router drops the connection like a yo-yo. The firmware is updated with no difference.
The wireless connection is very unstable. It's configured with WPA2 Personal and is connected through a POE-switch with IPv4. The logs don't answer the questions why it drops the connection.
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Aug 29, 2011
The admin guide for the WAP4410N, explains the default setting for the Wireless Network Mode field:
"B/G/N-Mixed—(Default) Connects all the wireless client devices at their respective data rates in this mixed mode."
What does this mean exactly? Does it mean that I can have some clients using G at G speed; and some clients using N at the faster N speed? And both at the same time?
I can't see how that is possible as the AP only has one radio?If it is possible; then why is one of the options G only - that allows both G and N, but a G speeds only?
Should I set the Channel Bandwidth to 20Mhz or 40Mhz? The admin guide says that N will use 40Mhz and B/G will use 20Mhz. What is the difference in practice?
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Apr 12, 2012
We have an 2504 wireless controller at the office with 5 LAP1142's. At another office we have a single AP1142 which doesn’t quite reach end to end. Ideally I want drop in another AP1142 to provide end to end coverage. Does AP1142 has a repeater mode? If not is there any way to make two AP1142's work with each other so they appear as a singular access point? Can they be configured to handle roaming?
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Jun 2, 2012
I am a bit confused of the repeater functionality in the mentione AP, my concerns are:
1- Will each radio be dedicated to one function (for example 2.4 GHz for user access and 5.0 GHz for repeater functionality)?
2- Will the internet speed for users be affected when using the access point in repeater mode (no ethernet)?
3- Can an Autonomous AP function as a repeater?
4- Is there any license required?
5- What is the signal overlap requirements between the two Wired and non Wired AP?
6- Can the non wired AP be work as a repeater for another non wired AP (similar to cascading)?
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Jun 16, 2011
I want to configure two AP WAP4410N in Bridge Mode and I don´t find the correct configuraction tips.
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Dec 13, 2012
I have been using WAP4401N for almost a year in our office and I’m very happy of this device, never had any problem. So I bought 3 new ones for our customer which supposed to work in configuration below:
Network ----- AP1 –Bridge mode ----- AP2 – Bridge mode -----AP3 – Access Point mode.
Everything was working perfectly fine to the moment than bridge was broken. I can get access to all AP (obviously when connected to proper part of network) however not able to ping from AP2 -> AP1 or opposite so basically no link between AP1 and AP2. After reboot everything is working fine to next time (happens twice in two days). When I go to System Performance can see Connection is enabled but doesn’t work.
I upgraded firmware to latest version (2.0.5.3) but haven’t worked. When I’ve done some research found many users having similar problem with this device and basically they recommend to don’t buy. Unfortunately this is not an option for me as I’ve already purchased them.
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Oct 19, 2010
I have 3 WAP200 wireless-G access points. I have one set up as an AP the other two are set up as repeaters to the main AP.
My question is Do I need a lan connection to each repeater ?
also, do I need to create SSIDs for all three? & if so, do they need to be the same?
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May 1, 2012
For the establishment of a WiFi Hot Spot with 5 Cisco 1242AG and 5 antenna AIR-ANT1728, I want to know what the config is the most suitable.
- One antenna in root mode and the other 4 in repeater mode
- Or 5 antennas in root mode
Between each terminal distance is about 100 meters outside?
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Jun 30, 2012
From the broadband modem/router connected with a Gigabit 8 port unmanaged switch. Then, one WAP4410N is connected to the switch, wired connection for a distance of 90 meters. WAP4410N is set as an access point to the area. Then the second WAP4410N will be run as a repeater to the first WAP4410N. My question is that, can we set the second WAP4410N as a repeater, without the need for it to be connected to the switch via ethernet cable.
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Sep 15, 2010
I want to extend the range for a Linksys router WRT160N. I don't have the possibility to use an access point with a wired connection. I read on this forum that can be used WAP4410N configured as repeater, without wired connection. Can someone who has used this solution to confirm that it works? What configuration should be done on the router WRT160N to permit wireless signal to be repeated by WAP4410N?
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Oct 12, 2011
I have AP1 setup with WPA2-Enterprise. How would I setup AP2 (WAP4410N) to be a repeater for AP1?
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Jul 26, 2012
Does the data rate to N connected clients go down to G rate if there is even a single G client connected?
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Sep 25, 2011
I have a WAP4410N which I have had for awhile and the performance was flawless at what appeaared to be 300 Mbps. I udated the firmware recently to 2.0.4.2. This is when the problems started. Within 15 feet of the acccess point it would drop the connection and speeds were under 65 Mbps. I factory defaulted the unit and reinstalled the firmware with no changes. I run several other access points of differnt manufacturers and I get fantastic performance on draft N and G. I did check all the laptops for network adapter incosistansies. Have I made a configuation mistake? I only changed the IP address to bring it into the range of other devices. I use a sa520 router and a Trendnet Gigabit switch and a server with MS SBS 2008 which works well with all but the WAP4410N.
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