Cisco Wireless :: WAP4410N - What Does B/G/N Mixed Mode Do Exactly
Aug 29, 2011
The admin guide for the WAP4410N, explains the default setting for the Wireless Network Mode field:
"B/G/N-Mixed—(Default) Connects all the wireless client devices at their respective data rates in this mixed mode."
What does this mean exactly? Does it mean that I can have some clients using G at G speed; and some clients using N at the faster N speed? And both at the same time?
I can't see how that is possible as the AP only has one radio?If it is possible; then why is one of the options G only - that allows both G and N, but a G speeds only?
Should I set the Channel Bandwidth to 20Mhz or 40Mhz? The admin guide says that N will use 40Mhz and B/G will use 20Mhz. What is the difference in practice?
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Jul 26, 2012
Does the data rate to N connected clients go down to G rate if there is even a single G client connected?
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Oct 22, 2011
We have 3 x WAP4410N at new office setup in Singapore. Customer asked us to setup those 3 AP to make client auth against an ACS 4.2 sitting in US office. All the user notebooks were joined to Windows domain in US office, before sent out to Singapore office. We configured APs with WPA2 Enterprise Mixed mode and entered radius server address and secrects correctly. Logging from ACS shows that users are authenticated successfully but, on the user notebooks, authentication never seems successful and keeps authenticating.
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Sep 15, 2011
I have a Dell Wireless 1500 draft N adapter that only connects at G speeds in mixed mode. I tried N only mode and my adapter will not connect. I have tried N mode Auto and 40hz wide and nogo. I have tried TKIP + AES and AES and nogo.
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Sep 21, 2010
I also have problems with this type of accespoint, i have 2 (one in AP mode and the other in Client/Repeater mode).
Very often the connection between the pc and the repeater, and also between the 2 accespoints just "drops" out (like its resetting itself).
The accespoints are in enough range of eachother, so thats not the problem.
After the contact with Cisco here in Holland they said this type (4410N) is not stable with the 2.0.0.5 firmware, and its also limited to the B and G (not N) wireless, because else the accespoint will be even less stable??.
When can we expect a propper solution to this Cisco problem?
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May 26, 2012
1) Apparently, my Cisco modem likes to assign new IP addresses to things, so I didn't figure out the web access page until an hour in (was NOT 192.168.1.245)
2) Do I input the same IP address, subnet, DNS and default gateway as my Cisco modem? It has a wireless router and switch bundled in, should I use the wireless network's MAC address or the wired?
Currently, it's set to 'automatically configure':
IPv4
Local IP Address: 192.xxx.x.xx
Subnet Mask: 255.xxx.xxx.x
Default Gateway: 192.xxx.x.x
Primary DNS: 64.xx.xxx.xxx
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
I can access the page fine, but I cannot get the wireless client working...
3) I did a site survey and found my existing network and inputted its SSID and MAC address, but nothing happens. I still get one bar on my wireless devices indicating the AP isn't working.
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Jun 16, 2011
I want to configure two AP WAP4410N in Bridge Mode and I don´t find the correct configuraction tips.
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Sep 21, 2010
I have just been escalated to Level 3 support about my bridging issues.Bridge / Repeater mode configuration separated by 150 feet. Worked perfect for over 3 months.Upgraded firmware due to lockups starting to happen, now cant get the bridge / repeater to work longer than 15 min.After MANY support calls, new devices sent (version 2's) still no luck.
Talked to Marcelo at1 866 606 1866 and he stated that the Bridge / Repeater mode will not be supported farther than 50 Feet.(seems like a cop out to me) He didn't seem to have an answer as to why it worked for 3 Months other than interference Of which I have ran spectrum analyzers and see no Interference. **** even 10 feet away I cant get the units to work longer than 15 min.So I definitely think the 50 foot thing is a BS answer.
Also they have told me that External Antennas are not supported with these devices.Again even though People 500 feet away connect just perfect (without a bridge / repeater mode) with 50% coverage!
so here I am (spent 600 bucks) on bricks.. and nobody will support the device and I cant seem to get my money back.I have 8 customers with these devices, I am not going to use Cisco any longer. However will continue to fight this,as we all seem to have the same BS issues.
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Dec 13, 2012
I have been using WAP4401N for almost a year in our office and I’m very happy of this device, never had any problem. So I bought 3 new ones for our customer which supposed to work in configuration below:
Network ----- AP1 –Bridge mode ----- AP2 – Bridge mode -----AP3 – Access Point mode.
Everything was working perfectly fine to the moment than bridge was broken. I can get access to all AP (obviously when connected to proper part of network) however not able to ping from AP2 -> AP1 or opposite so basically no link between AP1 and AP2. After reboot everything is working fine to next time (happens twice in two days). When I go to System Performance can see Connection is enabled but doesn’t work.
I upgraded firmware to latest version (2.0.5.3) but haven’t worked. When I’ve done some research found many users having similar problem with this device and basically they recommend to don’t buy. Unfortunately this is not an option for me as I’ve already purchased them.
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Dec 7, 2009
I have purchased 4 of these devices about 2 months ago and have experienced all of the issues reported within this thread. The came with the 2.0.0.5 FW rev installed, so unless the 2.0.0.5 on the cisco DL site is different, nothing I can do with that.I've tried making them work as stand alone AP's, Bridge<-> Bridge, etc... all modes seem to lock up eventually needing a reboot to get any functionality back.Ultimately, I need to make them work in AP<->Client-Repeater mode. I've not been successful in making them work in any mode for a prolonged period of time.
having just rfound this thread today, I have not tried hard coding the NIC's to 100/full, but will give it a try. If it works, great, but then that would defeat the purpose of buying an N radio AP. I would like the potential 300Mbps throughput.
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Sep 25, 2011
I have a WAP4410N which I have had for awhile and the performance was flawless at what appeaared to be 300 Mbps. I udated the firmware recently to 2.0.4.2. This is when the problems started. Within 15 feet of the acccess point it would drop the connection and speeds were under 65 Mbps. I factory defaulted the unit and reinstalled the firmware with no changes. I run several other access points of differnt manufacturers and I get fantastic performance on draft N and G. I did check all the laptops for network adapter incosistansies. Have I made a configuation mistake? I only changed the IP address to bring it into the range of other devices. I use a sa520 router and a Trendnet Gigabit switch and a server with MS SBS 2008 which works well with all but the WAP4410N.
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Apr 30, 2011
I have the following equipment:
Cisco 871W router
2x WAP 4410N APs running 2.0.3.3
I currently have 1 AP connected to the router via copper. The AP to AP link is over 802.11. I have attached a diagram reflecting the current topology.
The AP-to-AP link will come up utilizing B/G/N mixed mode; however, the connection is basically unusable. About 30% of the traffic is dropped, while the packets that do make it have a consistently volatile latency, anywhere from 15 to 1500 ms. I have had success using G-only and B/G mixed. The link is stable (I have had the best results with B/G). The problem is, I didn't buy the 2nd 4410N to run the G protocol. I would like to connect the APs running either B/G/N (hopefully negotiating to N) or N only. I am wondering if there is a certain configuration I can utilize (perhaps using WDS repeater or bridge versus Wireless Client/Repeater?), or a firmware upgrade set for release that can make this happen for me.
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Aug 2, 2011
I am looking to slowly migrate some of our wireless devices (Aironet 1231 and 1232's) to the Wireless N spec - 1260's.I currently have four AP locations that I want to upgrade first before anywhere else. At the minute, these four AP's work on the 2.4Ghz G band.
how the new 1260's will work in the mixed environment. I believe I will need to purchase the 1262 (which is the dual band version) so that I can operate the AP in both the 2.4Ghz G band range and the 5Ghz N range at the same time, is this correct?If I was to purchase the 1261 (which is the single band version), will I only be able to operate in either th 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz, but not at the same time?
For the mixed environment, would you suggest the dual band version? Can I place the same SSID on multiple Radios if this is the case? Following example: Say I have the SSID called 'Company' - this at the minute is operating on the G band 2.4Ghz range. If I was to purcahse the dual band 1262, could I put this SSID on both the G radio and the N radio? Would clients with an N adapter automatically connect to the 5Ghz range (N Radio) and legacy G and B adapters automatically connect to the 2.4Ghz (G Radio)?
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Feb 4, 2010
If we have a mixed environment of 4400 and 5500 controllers will the office extend features still work or will we have to run a seperate wireless domain from the 5508 for the aps that we need office extend on?
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Jan 7, 2012
I just bought a new WRT120N router and it works perfectly on cable and Wi-Fi with one major issue on Wi-Fi. If i connect my phone or any phone for that matter that knows N speed the connection speed is 65Mbps and that is fine as all phones are limited to this speed over Wi-Fi. When I connect a Sony laptop that has N connection speed up to 300 Mpbs the connection speed shows as 65Mpbs. Are there any special settings I have to do to make the connection at least 100 or 120 Mpbs? What is the maximum connection speed of this model because I couldn't find any information about this. I did some digging on google and found that some people have connection speed of 120 Mpbs but they didn't give any advice on the settings they used or how they got to this speed. Keep in mid that I am refering to the connection speed now the actual download speed. So what settings I have to do to get at least 100 Mpbs speed connection?
LE: I would prefer a setting that would alow me to connect a Galaxy Nexus phone an iPhone 3G and the Sony laptop so that all of them will be connected at the maximum speed suported by that specific device.
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Oct 7, 2011
I currently have 2 PCs that are directly connected to each other via a 1Gbs Cat6 connection.I don't currently have a 1Gbs router so what I am doing right now is unhooking this connection and reconnecting both machines to my router when I need internet access. I have ordered some USB Wi-Fi adapters so I can have both machines access the internet that way whilst still use FTP between them on the 1Gbs line.If I were to scrap that idea and get a 1Gbs hub, connect both PCs straight into that, and then also connect the hub to my 100mbits router, would the 2 computers be able to communicate with each other at 1Gbs and then talk to the router at 100mbits, or would the whole network run at 100mbits.I don't really want to have to shell out on a 1Gbs router as I don't need anything else on the network to run at that speed.
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May 14, 2013
How to create a mixed service ports on ASA 8.4(2)?I need to create a service group which has ICMP, TCP ports and also different UDP ports.Normally you would create different service group based on TCP/UDP/TCP-UDP/ICMP/Protocol and add then to new nested service group.But I want to create a new service group where you can define everything without the need to different service groups and nesting them into a new one.
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Oct 10, 2012
I'm trying to use LMS to upgrade a stack of switches that have 1 or more 3750x's and other 3750's. In Software Distribution, if I choose Distrube to devices, basic, it finds the x switch, which is the master but says the others are not candidates. I don't see a place where I can tell it it is a mixes stack and choose multiple IOS's.
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Jan 29, 2013
We have a non-wireless network of Macs at work and occasionally have a PC laptop connected with an ethernet cable. Everything worked well until the owner of the PC got a new one, and tried to install drivers for our HP printer using the original HP install disk. Now none of the computers can connect with the printer. What happened? How can I correct this? The Macs all run OSX 10.5.8. The Windows operating system is, I believe, XP.
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Aug 23, 2012
So my den pc is 192.168.1.4 and the kids xbox is 192.168.1.6 well i set the port forwards for my ip address for my security cameras and I set the kids portforward for the xbox. Well after a power outage, the power comes back on and randomly assigns everything a new address. Well the portforward for the secuirty cam might be on the xbox, or the laptop or the guest pc or my den pc at random?
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Aug 30, 2011
I have two netgear powerline AV 500 ethernet adapters that give me near ideal internet access on my media computer (FIOS 25/25mpbs tests out at 8ms 25.4/24.7) and perhaps 100-140mbps to my router, printer, drive, etc. I now want to add a few wifi points and instead of having the mess of a powerline adapter + a wifi router I think it will be neater to have an all in one solution. Most of the ones that I find are 200mbps, however. I know that 500 is backwards compatible, but will a mixed solution slow everything down like it can for a mixed wireless g/n network?
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Jul 17, 2012
Any one try to form a stack with mixed 3750-X and 3750G? Is there any prerequisites in hardware and software?
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Sep 6, 2011
I have running a Stack with two C3750G-24TS-S1U with the IOS c3750-ipbasek9-mz.122-50.SE3.Now I want put a new C3750X-24T-S in the existing stack. I have read this is possible. I have running a other mixed stack with a C3750G-12S and an C3750E-48TD. Its running fine until I want to make an IOS update. The update was done with the CW LMS 3.1. After the automatic update and restart only the C3750E had an new IOS the C3750G doesn't have any IOS. Do I have the same problem with the mixed Stack C3750G and C3750X?Do I have to upgrade the IOS by copying the different IOS Versions ( c3750-ipbasek9-mz.122-50.SE3 / c3750e-ipbasek9-mz.122-50.SE3) to every switch ?
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Jun 28, 2011
I have a CAS array for Exchange 2010 configured to loadbalance on my Cisco ACE 47XX. My question is: Can I run a mixed VMware cluster version 3.5 and 4.1 on my ACE? I am experiencing is dropped RPC connections and I was wondering if that could be the cause of it or maybe I am misconfigured something on the ACE
Another question:Should I seperate the two cluster versions on their own serverfarm and than loadbalance the farms? What I mean is serverfarm 3.5 and serverfarm 4.1 and than loadbalance them.
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Mar 4, 2012
We have recently converted 1 Cisco Lightweight AP 1041 to Autonomous mode for site-survey purposes. We now want to convert it back to lightweight mode.
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Jun 21, 2011
What is supported in terms of running a mixed feature set in a Cisco 3750 switch stack.We are looking at setting up a stack consisting of 5 x 3750V2 and 2 x 3750G. Due to a requirement for full EIGRP we need the IP Services feature set. Is it a supported configuration to run with 2 or 3 switches running the IP Services feature set as stack masters and the others running IP Base? I understand that if stack master priorities were set these switches with the higher feature set could manage the stack and offer IP Services accross the stack. If we were to lose all of the switches running IP Services the stack would drop back to IP Base.I am looking for guidance as to if this is a supported configuration and not in breach of licensing? Is this likely to cause any problem other than above now and for future IOS releases?
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Dec 31, 2012
This will work, the Netgear I have does this seamlessly, how do I set this up as I cant find any info in the manuals/online help.
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Jul 3, 2012
I've got a mixed stack as follows:
Switch 1 - 3750X-24P
Switch 2 - 3750G-24TS
Switch 3 - 3750G-24T
Running 12.2(53)SE2, IP base. Now I tried upgrading the firmware on the entire stack to 12.2(55)SE4 and ran into this error:(Command: archive download-sw /imageonly /overwrite /allow-feature-upgrade tftp://10.20.20.13/c3750e-universalk9-tar.122-55.SE4.tar)
Error: The image in the archive which would to used to upgade system number 2 does not support that system type.I haven't as yet removed the "3750G-24TS" switch from the stack and re-tried as yet, however, is the expectation that without the 24TS, the upgrade should work?
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Feb 28, 2012
i got a Dir-655 router and Dell 1501 wireless -N mini PCI card (802.11 bgn compliant). Router was set to mix mode but my desktop Dell XP8300 can connect only till G mode.
1) I search on web and some said that i need to set my router to N mode only for my desktop to connect to N mode. IS THIS SOLUTION CORRECT??
2) Another issue was my sis got other old brand latop which can only connect to B mode, if i set to N mode only, she won't be able to connect it right?
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Jan 23, 2013
I have the following config using a Cisco 1921. I am trying to get devices on the the native VLAN to get internet access via the gateway x.x.x.73.Any thing being routed from the other Vlans 15/20/30 can get access, but nothing from an internal IP address. Is there something I am missing.
The Xs replace the same 3 octets for each interface.I am trying to route from VLANs 15/20/30 to see VLAN 5. I have tried a few things, in terms of adding extra ip routes, but can't get anything to work. Each of those Vlans have another router on the other side of them, which I have also tried adding ip routes too, but nothing. One of the routers (Vlan15 is a Draytek 2830). [code]
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Sep 21, 2010
Well, I sent mine back and they shafted me with a v1 unit.I don't see how you can know what the problem is and still send me a v1 unit.
I contacted SB support and they said no guarantees on getting a v2 unit.
Now I must PAY to send another unit back.With no guarantees, I don't know.
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Dec 4, 2012
I have a WAP4410N that stopped powering on with PoE. The PoE light comes on but the Power and Ethernet light remain off. The link light comes on the port on the switch. I have tried multiple switch ports and tried a different switch.
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Jul 20, 2010
I would like to ask for assistance on how to configure one unit WAP4410N access point to work as repeater to one unit WRT120N wireless router.
As a background, I had one WRT120N already in my house before I bought one WAP4410N as advised by a Linksys guy. I wanted to wirelessly extend the signal of my WRT120N wherever its signal is so low around my house. The WAP4410N should work as repeater to WRT120N.
I already configured WAP4410N to work as repeater by enabling all the choices in its wireless AP mode like the “wireless WDS repeater” and the “wireless client/repeater” but to no avail. I successfully setup a similar scenario before using the old pair of one WRT54G and one WAP54G. I replaced the old pair with the newer one ( WRT120N and one WAP4410N).
Is the tandem of WAP4410N and WRT120N can be configured technically as like as what I wanted? Do I need to upgrade the firmware of both devices? Did I miss something in the configuration?
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