Cisco Wireless :: WAP4410N-E V02 In Bridge Mode - Broken Connection
Dec 13, 2012
I have been using WAP4401N for almost a year in our office and I’m very happy of this device, never had any problem. So I bought 3 new ones for our customer which supposed to work in configuration below:
Network ----- AP1 –Bridge mode ----- AP2 – Bridge mode -----AP3 – Access Point mode.
Everything was working perfectly fine to the moment than bridge was broken. I can get access to all AP (obviously when connected to proper part of network) however not able to ping from AP2 -> AP1 or opposite so basically no link between AP1 and AP2. After reboot everything is working fine to next time (happens twice in two days). When I go to System Performance can see Connection is enabled but doesn’t work.
I upgraded firmware to latest version (2.0.5.3) but haven’t worked. When I’ve done some research found many users having similar problem with this device and basically they recommend to don’t buy. Unfortunately this is not an option for me as I’ve already purchased them.
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Jun 16, 2011
I want to configure two AP WAP4410N in Bridge Mode and I don´t find the correct configuraction tips.
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Sep 21, 2010
I have just been escalated to Level 3 support about my bridging issues.Bridge / Repeater mode configuration separated by 150 feet. Worked perfect for over 3 months.Upgraded firmware due to lockups starting to happen, now cant get the bridge / repeater to work longer than 15 min.After MANY support calls, new devices sent (version 2's) still no luck.
Talked to Marcelo at1 866 606 1866 and he stated that the Bridge / Repeater mode will not be supported farther than 50 Feet.(seems like a cop out to me) He didn't seem to have an answer as to why it worked for 3 Months other than interference Of which I have ran spectrum analyzers and see no Interference. **** even 10 feet away I cant get the units to work longer than 15 min.So I definitely think the 50 foot thing is a BS answer.
Also they have told me that External Antennas are not supported with these devices.Again even though People 500 feet away connect just perfect (without a bridge / repeater mode) with 50% coverage!
so here I am (spent 600 bucks) on bricks.. and nobody will support the device and I cant seem to get my money back.I have 8 customers with these devices, I am not going to use Cisco any longer. However will continue to fight this,as we all seem to have the same BS issues.
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Oct 23, 2010
I have tried to upgrade from 2.0.2.1 ever since 2.0.3.3 was released back in July. The firmware image file has remained the same, so I don't think they've ever changed it from the original July release.The download and installation go fine, I even reset to factory defaults. The problem is that several menu selections are broken, and don't allow you to save your choices, i.e, you can't even rename your SSID. You can type it in a Apply, but the fields just reset. I figured this would be fixed with a minor update to 2.0.3.3, but we are now several months since original release and nothing has changed. I have tried this firmware at least three times now. I have not bothered lately, because I don't want to waste another 30 minutes trying it and reverting back to 2.0.2.1 if this newest firmware is not going to work.
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Apr 21, 2013
I have a brand new DAP-1522 A1 connected to an 802.11n wireless LAN in bridge mode. Running in the 2.4GHz band with WPK-2 and AES security/encryption.Everything runs fine 99% of the time, but once a day or so the wireless LAN connection on the DAP-1522 drops and then takes about two minutes to re-connect. It re-connects and then everything is fine for a day or so until the next dropped wireless connection episode on the DAP-1522. I know my 802.11n wireless network is 100% fine as during the dropped connection to the DAP-1522 I can connect directly to the 802.11n wireless network (running from my gateway/router) using my other computer, no issues.I've seen some posts on this forum that the A1 version of the DAP-1522 hardware is not 100% compatible with the 802.11n network standard and there will be intermittent wireless drops. If this is true, it's just insane. All I can say is I can't believe DLink would allow a product to be sold that won't work properly on 802.11n networks.I check the logs each time I see the dropped wireless connection and all that shows is the following.1) Negotiating connection 2) 4-way handshake success [mac address]There's no message in the logs about why the wireless connection dropped, but I assume it has something to do with re-newing a key for the wireless network as the successful key renewal messages are the only other messages in the log. When the wireless network dropped I don't see the successful key renewal message at the time I should see it.I thought this DAP-1522 would take 15 minutes to configure in bridge mode and then I'd forget about it. Spend too much time on this already, so a bit disappointed with this DAP-1522 and DLink tech support....though when it's connected to the 802.11n wireless LAN it works fine.
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Feb 25, 2013
I use a WUMC710 bridge with desktop PC and a Printer connected to it. When those two devices have been inactive for a while the bridge goes into sleep mode and loses the connection Back to my EA6500. Trying to print something from wireless devices connected to the 6500 elsewhere in the network doesn't "wake up" the bridge. Ihave to unplug the power supply and restart it.
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Apr 25, 2012
I currently have a DAP1522 in Bridge mode with a DIR655. I am only using the 2.4GHz G mode on my 655. In a few days I will be replacing the 655 with an 825. When I log into the 1522 I don't see any settings for Mode, Frequency or Width (while in Bridge mode). The page for wireless setup is blank except for the "Save Settings" button. When I look at the 655, it appears that the 1522 is connected (bridged) at 2.4 GHz G like I would expect. So, when I install the 825 how do I make it connect at 5GHz N or will that be automatic if my SSID on the N mode of the 825 matches SSID on the 1522?
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Feb 13, 2011
I have a room cut off from the wired network by concrete walls (there are windows and it's a very short distance). There is a device in that room with a wired network adapter than needs access to the network. We'd like to use a pair of WAP4410N devices to get that room on our wired network over a simple "wireless bridge."
Would the following work?
Connect one WAP4410N normally with WPA2 Personal encryption and connect it to our wired network. Enable repeating of its signal.Set up the "remote" WAP4410N in the "cut off" room. Give it the same SSID and Encryption settings. Enable "Wireless Client Repeater" mode and uncheck the box labeled "Allow wireless station to associate". . . then use its RJ45 network port to connect to the wired device in the room. My biggest concern is the part in bold. Will the network port on the "remote" repeater function like that? So that any devices (or a switch) plugged into it will then be "forwarded along the bridge" to the main/local AP and then onto our network?
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Sep 20, 2011
send me wireless bridge settings for WAP 4410N.
I have purchased two sets of WAP4410N and i need this to connect as wireless bridge to use our external office users(1 or Max 2) which is just beside our office building to surf our internet and retrieve data from our main server.
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Jul 12, 2011
I ordered a pair of WAP4410N to use as a bridge for a split office. So far they have worked without a hitch but the throughput is less than stellar and I was wondering what the recommended configuration was for best performance (and how much speed could be expected in general) out of these two? [code]
The two nodes are separated by about 25 yards across a parking lot with direct LoS to the other, placed inside a window mounted on the wall -elevated at about 10' so cars in the lot outside do not block visibility. At best the throughput I've seen is 1megabyte/sec, and that seems very slow/clunky to me for the 802.11n specification. Am I missing some setting, updated firmware, or physical setup (AC power instead of PoE for better antenna output maybe?) to have such limited performance?
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Apr 4, 2011
I am using 2 WAP4410N in bridge mode with WPA2 Security.The bridge seems to be stable but i get poor transfer rates.Distance between devices ~ 8m - nothing between.Wireless networkmode: N-Only, Channel: Auto, Channel Bandwitdh: 40MHz (also tried auto and 20MHz)Firmware 2.0.2.1 because got different problems with 2.0.3.3One side is connected to my LAN other is connected to a notebook.
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Feb 2, 2011
I want to make a bridge with 2 WAP4410N access points.But what is the totaly distance that the access point can make to have an good connection in an open area?
So example:one WAP4410N in a house (near a window) and the other in a house (near a window) and the 2 houses lie 200 meters of each other. Is this possible?
If it is not possible with this access points, what is then an option/possibility ?
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Aug 29, 2011
The admin guide for the WAP4410N, explains the default setting for the Wireless Network Mode field:
"B/G/N-Mixed—(Default) Connects all the wireless client devices at their respective data rates in this mixed mode."
What does this mean exactly? Does it mean that I can have some clients using G at G speed; and some clients using N at the faster N speed? And both at the same time?
I can't see how that is possible as the AP only has one radio?If it is possible; then why is one of the options G only - that allows both G and N, but a G speeds only?
Should I set the Channel Bandwidth to 20Mhz or 40Mhz? The admin guide says that N will use 40Mhz and B/G will use 20Mhz. What is the difference in practice?
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Sep 21, 2010
I also have problems with this type of accespoint, i have 2 (one in AP mode and the other in Client/Repeater mode).
Very often the connection between the pc and the repeater, and also between the 2 accespoints just "drops" out (like its resetting itself).
The accespoints are in enough range of eachother, so thats not the problem.
After the contact with Cisco here in Holland they said this type (4410N) is not stable with the 2.0.0.5 firmware, and its also limited to the B and G (not N) wireless, because else the accespoint will be even less stable??.
When can we expect a propper solution to this Cisco problem?
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May 26, 2012
1) Apparently, my Cisco modem likes to assign new IP addresses to things, so I didn't figure out the web access page until an hour in (was NOT 192.168.1.245)
2) Do I input the same IP address, subnet, DNS and default gateway as my Cisco modem? It has a wireless router and switch bundled in, should I use the wireless network's MAC address or the wired?
Currently, it's set to 'automatically configure':
IPv4
Local IP Address: 192.xxx.x.xx
Subnet Mask: 255.xxx.xxx.x
Default Gateway: 192.xxx.x.x
Primary DNS: 64.xx.xxx.xxx
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
I can access the page fine, but I cannot get the wireless client working...
3) I did a site survey and found my existing network and inputted its SSID and MAC address, but nothing happens. I still get one bar on my wireless devices indicating the AP isn't working.
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Dec 7, 2009
I have purchased 4 of these devices about 2 months ago and have experienced all of the issues reported within this thread. The came with the 2.0.0.5 FW rev installed, so unless the 2.0.0.5 on the cisco DL site is different, nothing I can do with that.I've tried making them work as stand alone AP's, Bridge<-> Bridge, etc... all modes seem to lock up eventually needing a reboot to get any functionality back.Ultimately, I need to make them work in AP<->Client-Repeater mode. I've not been successful in making them work in any mode for a prolonged period of time.
having just rfound this thread today, I have not tried hard coding the NIC's to 100/full, but will give it a try. If it works, great, but then that would defeat the purpose of buying an N radio AP. I would like the potential 300Mbps throughput.
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Jul 26, 2012
Does the data rate to N connected clients go down to G rate if there is even a single G client connected?
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Sep 25, 2011
I have a WAP4410N which I have had for awhile and the performance was flawless at what appeaared to be 300 Mbps. I udated the firmware recently to 2.0.4.2. This is when the problems started. Within 15 feet of the acccess point it would drop the connection and speeds were under 65 Mbps. I factory defaulted the unit and reinstalled the firmware with no changes. I run several other access points of differnt manufacturers and I get fantastic performance on draft N and G. I did check all the laptops for network adapter incosistansies. Have I made a configuation mistake? I only changed the IP address to bring it into the range of other devices. I use a sa520 router and a Trendnet Gigabit switch and a server with MS SBS 2008 which works well with all but the WAP4410N.
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Nov 18, 2012
Client has a building that is located 300Ft apart and would like to provide IP communications for 3-4 IP hadsets back to an IP PBX. They do not want to dig up the parking lot so we proposed using a wireless bridge. I noticed that Cisco discontinue the 1300 and 1400 Wireless Bridge. Can I use a 1262 with external antenna in Workgroup Bridge mode to perform this functions? I will put a Layer 3 switch on both ends to route traffic (3560C-8). Should I use the Yagi antenna's for outdoor use?
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May 26, 2013
a customer got an 1552 outdoor AP in local mode and installed it at a building. It has to run as a Mesh AP (MAP). Now the AP connects one time to the WLC 5508 and started a download. After that, the AP never came back. Like we saw on the other installed 1552 RAP's, they all where in local mode.We configured all AP's to bridge mode, but the MAP could not join anymore.Is there a CLI command to change the mode on the AP itself?From the WLC it's not a problem, but for the AP CLI I cannot find sth.
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Feb 21, 2012
We have some rolling carts used for telemedicine and are currently using Linksys WET610N wireless bridges. I haven't been very impressed with them - I have to reboot them at least once a week and figure it's a roaming issue. Since they are a residential product they probably weren't designed to do a lot of roaming.I started playing around with WGB and setup an 1142 AP and got it to work. Unfortunately, the only place I can put the AP is inside the cart and the metal top seems to be interfering with the wireless signal.
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Mar 6, 2012
I'm trying to get confirmation on whether you can have workgroup bridge mode on the 1040 series model.
The 1041N has the same IOS as the 1141/1241 and it has the settings are there, but I read somewhere on the cisco site that workgroup bridge is only supported on 1100 and 1200 series, is this correct or old information?
Scenario is: I have an existing stand alone 1041N AP, on the other side of the building I have a network LAN switch with a couple of PCs, instead of running cables I would like to add an AP as a bridge to link that switch and PCs to the network that the AP is plugged in to. I believe this is called Workgroup Bridge Mode. In fact there already is a cheap non-cisco wireless device doing this but it is unreliable.
I just placed an order for Two 1041N APs, do I need to change the order to Two 1141N instead?
Also even if the 1041N does not support workgroup bridge mode, can it still act as the ROOT Bridge and have 2 1141N APs configured in bridge mode connected to the 1041N?
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Apr 21, 2013
I have a WLC2504 and 2 LAP1261N (converted from autonomous to lightweight) with release 7.0.116.0 and I want to create a point-to-point mesh link between the 2 APs. When trying to change the APs mode from local to bridge I receive the message "This AP does not support bridge mode" even if the release notes say that mesh is supported on AP1261N. I tried to change the mode from gui and also from CLI.
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Feb 16, 2013
I have an old computer with dead wifi nc and I thought that bridging it with was121 should work, but can't find anywhere any comprehensive documentation on how to set it up.
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May 15, 2011
I am configuring a mobile van that is used for a mobile health clinic to drive to several locations and when pulling into an allocated parking spot the van will connect via wireless automatically. I am using autonomous 1252 AP's and am considering either briding or workgroup bridging.
The issue I am encountering is that the AP inside a van is a router that has to do DHCP across the wireless and because the ethernet interface between router and AP in the van never goes down the router does not know to re-DHCP. I remember from way back there was an IOS command to track a serial interface and drop the ethernet if the serial link goes down. Is there an equivalent command for AP's to drop the ethernet interface if the radio interfaces go down?
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Mar 17, 2013
I'm using the 2106 in one environment with ROOT AP and MESH AP and when i put these in the Bridge mode, when one client connects to them it isn't working well, sometimes i can reach the client and sometimes not.
I tried it with an Access Point that connect with the ROOT AP or MESH AP and will do an ethernet bridging with another wired client (camera), what happens is very strange because sometimes i can reach the bridge client and sometimes i can reach the Access Point that is doing the bridge. I can't access the two clients at the same time. In this situation i lose the images from camera when i have access to the Access Point and when i get the images from camera i lost access with the Access Point.
When i put the ROOT AP in the H-REAP mode Local Switching with AP 1142 or AP1552, the clients connects well and the bridge mode in the another access point works without problem, when i put the H-REAP in Central Switching i have the same problem.
I'm using in the 2106 WLC the version 7.0.240.0.
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Jul 27, 2011
I try to change the AP mode of my LWAPP 1242 from local to bridge mode. But when the AP reboots it never associates with the controller, i have to reset it manually.I have the same issue with a LWAPP 1142.I tried to modify the AP mode configuration through the controller CLI but it's the same behaviour, AP never associates.Is there any particular parameter or configuration to perform before changing AP mode?
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May 16, 2013
[code] Can't find any wrong with the switch ports and AP's that can result in Duplex mismatch.The only difference I can find is the AP that is in all duplex missm. log's is used for other Mesh AP's to connect to.
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Jul 14, 2011
We have 4 access points in my network i want configure 1 is ap mode another 3 is bridge mode Is it possible to configure in 4410 N ? if i configure bridge mode can i use single SSID&Securtiy key for all aps. how to i use these 4 access points
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Apr 3, 2013
I am trying to build a bridge between two of my access points. Both the access points connected to the wireless controller. I have changed the AP mode to "Bridge" after changing the power to custom.
The access points have both rebooted - but never "joined" the controller again. I have checked on the following pdf.
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One thing I can see - if I run a ping to the last IP.. every now and again I get a single response then it drops again. Via the console on the access point I can see it's getting to the controller, getting its name then reading something that caught my eye
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*Apr 4 11:41:24.451: %CAPWAP-3-ERRORLOG: Go join a capwap controller
*Apr 4 11:41:19.000: %CAPWAP-5-DTLSREQSEND: DTLS connection request sent peer_ip: 57.24.10.53 peer_port: 5246
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Jun 7, 2011
Is it possible to connect two WAP200E on bridge mode without external antennas if they are 200 mts. (219 yard) apart?
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Aug 7, 2012
Is there a way to set up these ap's to bridge. Ie two buildings 100 yards apart Both buildings have wired clients into a Cisco poe switch. Want to plug the ap's into each switch and have them bridge the data and even better if they could trunk vlans. No wireless clients at all. Strictly a point to point bridge. Also will they need to be lwaps or standalone APs. If they are lwaps can I flash to standalone ?
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Jun 9, 2011
i would like to know if wap200e will still have connection if there are trees in between. because we have 2 offices that is 200 meters apart and trees all over them. i just wanna know before we buy the unit.
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