Cisco Wireless :: 5508 - Not All 5 GHz Channels Being Used
Sep 30, 2012
I've got a deployment of 1142N APs using a pair of 5508 controllers running 7.3.101.0. We're in the United States and the country is set to "US". I've added the UNII-2 channels to Auto-RF on the controllers via "config advanced 802.11a channel add 100" and so forth. According to the output of "
show advanced 802.11a channel", I've enabled every 5 GHz channel that's legal for use in the US:
802.11a 5 GHz Auto-RF Channel List
Allowed Channel List......................... 36,40,44,48,52,56,60,64,100, 104,108,112,116,132,136,140, 149,153,157,161,165
My confusion comes because the automatic assignment of 5 GHz channels is heavily biased toward just a few of them, with most of the available space being ignored. Here are the 5 GHz channel assignments from a large, single-story building with 31 APs:
(qty 2) 36
(qty 6) 40
(qty 5) 44
[ code].....
A total of nine channels are used (two of them only once) while twelve other channels are ignored completely. Many of these APs are close enough to hear one another, so assigning seven of them to ch. 48 makes no sense.
Looking at my campus as a whole, I've got numerous APs using channels 36, 40, 44, 48, 149, 153, 157, 161, and 165. I've got at least one each using channels 52, 56, 60, 64, 112, 116, and 132. Nothing at all is on 100, 104, 108, 136, and 140. I am using 20 MHz wide channels, between, so all are independent.
Can anyone shed light on A) why my distribution is so heavily skewed toward the first nine channels, and B) how I can learn whether certain channels are being avoided due to the presence of radar, etc, on the frequency? I'd like to take full advantage of 5 GHz by having as little channel re-use as possible.
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What prompted this was I was testing the throughput on it and can only get a 130 mbps data rate connection to it. The data sheet says it will support 300 mbps with the 40 mhz channel so I was trying to test it atteh higher rate.The HW is a Cisco 4402 with 7.0.230 software on it, 1552E.
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Firmware Version :
ISP :
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The list of WLAN channels is here: [URL]
More background: each allowed 5 GHz channel is 20 MHz wide in the US. However 802.11n does what's called "channel bonding" -- it actually uses two channels side-by-side for increased throughput. E4200 owners will notice a channel width setting and one of the options is 40 MHz or Auto (20 MHz or 40 MHz) -- this is what uses two channels combined. I happen to have this option set to "Auto (20 MHz or 40 MHz)".
I discovered, through experimentation, that the router will ALWAYS select channel 149/153 as the operating channel if there are no other wireless APs in the area (channel 149 as primary and channel 153 as secondary). I always wanted to see the AP select a DFS channel, so I brought home a bunch of access points and started occupying spectrum. I put AP #1 on channel 149/153 and rebooted my E4200, at which point it picked channel 157/161. So I put AP #2 on channel 157/161 and rebooted the E4200, and it skipped channel 165 (note that there's not enough spectrum up there for 40 MHz, which is probably why it got skipped) and selected channel 36/40. I put AP #3 on channel 36/40 and rebooted the E4200 and to no surprise it picked channel 44/48. So I put AP #4 on channel 44/48 and it picked...channel 149/153?!?!
Just to be certain that there isn't a certain threshold required to force the AP to select a DFS channel, I moved all 4 APs RIGHT NEXT TO the E4200 such that their signal strengths exceeded -40 dBm, and then rebooted the E4200. It STILL picked channel 149/153!
Just what are the criteria required for the E4200 to select a DFS channel?!? DFS is advertised in the user menu, but I can't find any way to get the AP to select one of those channels. Does the AP *really* support them, or does it just say it does? If the E4200 does NOT really support DFS, then Cisco/Linksys should remove the term "DFS" from the user menu -- it is deceptive!!
Oh, I should mention that I'm in Santa Clara County -- Saratoga, CA. I checked the FCC database on radars and as far as I can tell, there are NO radars on DFS frequencies around here.
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#######vPC cluster of Nexus 7009######
--N7K-1--
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[code]....
**************** Config info below. This is a vPC pair and the port configs are identical on both switches so I'm only showing the configs for one switch to keep it simple.
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System: source-dest-ip
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IP: source-dest-ip source-dest-mac
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