Cisco Wireless :: Stand Alone 3502I Without Controller?
May 10, 2012
I have a customer with several older Aironet 1121G WAP's. In one area of the plant the noise levels from several large motors is preventing reliable connection to the WAP, even though it is located in the same conference room as the users. I am suggesting upgrading the 1121G to the 3502I to take advantage of the Clean Air technology. This raises two questions:
1) Will a single 3502I be able to effectively handle the RF noise, or does it require a network of WAPs to function properly?
2) Does the 3502I require the CT2504 controller for the Clean Air to work, or will it function in a stand alone mode?
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Apr 8, 2012
Cisco Aironet 3602I is stand alone or need a controller ?
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Oct 15, 2012
When we were installing some new APs, were plugged in to ports that were not configured on the WLC management VLAN.
This is the illustration
WLC management VLAN is VLAN 80 Management VLAN of infrastructure (Switches routers) is VLAN 10
The APs were plugged in to VLAN 10 and they were not able to associate themselves with the controllers.
Through research, those APs were getting a wrong IP address,
I did the Mode button, pressed for 30 secs, but this did not fix the problem, i thought it was going to clean the flash and bring the AP back to factory default I do not believe this happened.
We also added the cisco-capwap-controller.localdomain to our DNS servers, and then I rebotted the APs and still no luck.
What fixed the issue is we had to go to the DHCP server, release the IP addresses and we found those based on the macs of the APs. What is we do not have the mac addresses?
Now that I have the DNS entry created, if I plug in an AP on the wrong VLAN port will I be able to see it?
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Nov 27, 2012
I am having a Wism on 6500 chassis with software code 7.2.103.0 Now......... I use to have 7.2.111.3 on the Wism before but for some reason I had to downgrade the code to an older version (some compatibility issues with the NCS)......
Now before all the APs were having 7.2.111.3 version running as soon as I downgraded the controller IOS most of them downgraded the code but a few still did not show up...... so I picked one of them and did a factory reset on the AP and was guessing that it might get the new code from the controller this way but unfortunately since than I have tried a lot of things but no luck. I have switches configured on layer 3..... other APs connected to this switch are working fine,........ when I reset the AP to factory default it doesnot take an IP obviously so I manually define the IP,,, you would find that configuration below too.... but than after a while it trys to locate the controller and could not find it.... where as, as i said other APs on teh same switch works fine......
the only thing i notice is that it does not release the IOS .. it is still having 7.2.111.3.....
using MCNG ddr static values from serial eeprom
ddr init done
Running Normal Memtest...
Passed.
IOS Bootloader - Starting system.
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Oct 28, 2012
Will i need another RFS6000 controller to run a single AP650 (isolated remote location) or it can be set in stand-alone mode ? I might consider install one antenna per location in 5 different store.
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Sep 12, 2012
I am trying to configure this newly purchased AP to be used for WiFi surveys, heatmaps, etc..
I cant seem to get to the web interface of the AP to make config changes, even though it is picking up an IP via DHCP and it is pingable.
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Sep 12, 2012
I have some old 1231 APs in the school in which I work.I would like to create a local network (no LAN, no internet, just a point to point wifi connection) managed by the access point (in DHCP).That's because we have an apple TV connected to a projector and some ipads. My idea was to put the devices locally in the same closed network for share via AIR Mirror the ipads on the apple TV.
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May 12, 2013
We typically use the 2602 series AP in lightweight mode, however I have a scenario where we are going to be installing one with the stand-alone software. I understand that we will not be able to utilze certain features that you get with the WLC such as RRM, rogue detection, and clean air.
We do want to utilze both the 2.4GHZ and 5GHZ bands. In order to do this with the 2602 stand-alone AP, will we have to configure 2 separate SSID's? I really do not want to do this to if I do not have to to minimize confusion for clients.
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May 2, 2012
We are deploying a new office and exploring the options for WLAN deployment. We were pretty impressed with 3500 series APs and that it supports CleanAir.However, we have decided to go for standalone AP deployment model now. As 3500 does not work in standalone mode, so we are looking for APs that can work in standalone mode ( and later can be converted to lightweight if needed). We can go for 1140 in that case. However, it would be better for us to know the main differences between features supported by 3500 lightweight AP and 1140 standalone AP. CleanAir looks like the main one. Are there other important ones as well?
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Jun 15, 2011
IPods and IPads to connect to stand alone AP1131? My scenario is as follows:
There is a section of a campus that is covered by 14 stand alone AP1131 were I experience the problem. The security parameters are: 802.1x, wpa enterprise, tkip
The other section is under WLC also AP1131 but in this case in WLANs/Scurity/Leyer 2 I checked boxes:
WPA Policy, WPA Encryption TKIP
WPA2 Policy, WPA2 Encryption AES
Auth Key Mgmt 802.1x
Wonder if the fact that I chose WPA2, AES makes a difference with stand alone mode? Anyways I tried configuring AES in stand alone APs and it didn't make a difference since I could not connect either.
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Feb 14, 2012
We have an Cisco Aironet 1130AG access point which is deployed as Stand Alone Access point, connected to Cisco 2960 Switch.Now we want to configure an Guest Wifi Access for guest users , for accessing internet ,Is it possible to configure Guest wifi for stand alone access point,( Bcoz i created in WCS, i am not sure about stand alone), i read in articles like create new vlan for Guest account & assign it like that , but not clear.
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Oct 17, 2012
I am in the process of deploying 3502i APs. This site has 2 - 5508 WLCs both running Software version 7.0.220.0 and 2 - 4402 WLCs both running the same version of software as the 5508s. All of the APs that I have installed so far have joined the controller and I can associate to them and access the network. When the APs first are connected to the switch they go through the 'normal' boot up with the LED changing colors - white, red, green, blue (not necessarily in that order). Once the AP has completed its boot sequence the LED goes out and remains NOT lit.
This is happening to most but not all of the APs. This is the first time I have deployed 3502s - previous experience is with 1142s and 1242s and the LED does not do this with them.
I can, through the CLI, turn the LED on but it is then ALWAYS blue, even if a device is NOT associated to it.
I do not want to leave them off because the account will believe they have a 'dead' AP and with them always blue they cannot properly troubleshoot using the LED.
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Nov 4, 2012
In an idle situation how much area is covered by a cisco 3502i acceccpoint , I understand there are many factor that will effect this , thats why I am adking in idle situation , I am looking for a number is square feet.
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Oct 1, 2012
Can a 3502i be downgraded to autonomous mode?
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Apr 28, 2013
how to convert a 3502 access point from Autonomous to Lightweight ? 3502 has a new IOS released back in Dec 2012 to work as staandalone mode. I need to convert this back to Lightweight mode.
I have been searching on web but have had no luck so far with anything. Tried converting it to lightweight in the same way as putting it on Autonomous IOS but errored out.
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Jul 16, 2012
I have AP which is not connected to switch.I console it and it gives error unable to to get IP from WLC.Need to know is there any way that i can go to command prompt of this AP without getting IP from WLC? I tried control + c etc it does not go to command prompt.
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Sep 25, 2012
I have a 3502i(AP_1) that will not join a 5508 WLC(WLC_1)(code 7.2.103). The 3502i(AP_1) will join 4402 WLC(WLC_2)(Code 7.0.230). I have another 3502i(AP_2) that will join the WLC_1 & WLC_2. I am using capwap discover through DNS and hard coding the primiary WLC to AP_1 & AP_2. When I debug capwap events and errors, I see the static capwap messages and replies. Both of the WLC are on the same subnet. I have defauted the AP_1 and it joins the CISCO-CAPWAP-CONTROLLER as expected. When I change the Primiary WLC to WLC_1 it goes back to the CISCO-CAPWAP-CONTROLLER. If i change the primiary WLC to WLC_2 it joins. If I change the primiary back to WLC_1 it joins WLC_2 even though it is not a secondary. I know the previous joined WLC are stored in NVRAM, so that might be why it is doing that. I can join other ap to WLC_1 just not this one.
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Jan 17, 2013
This problem only seems to affect one of our sites. Every once in a while, several APs would lose link to the 5508 and get stranded. The only way to fix the issue is either to power cycle, or better yet SSH into the APs and use the command "capwap ap controller ip address x.x.x.x", and then they'd automatically rejoin the controller. At first, I thought network hiccups caused the APs to lose connectivity, but there's none that I could find. I have the primary/secondary controller IPs configured in them as well. See log below:
[previous log entries show AP working as intended, then...]
*Jan 18 05:29:29.632: %CAPWAP-3-ERRORLOG: Retransmission count for packet exceeded max(CAPWAP_ECHO_REQUEST
., 1)
*Jan 18 05:29:29.632: %LWAPP-3-CLIENTEVENTLOG: Switching to Standalone mode
*Jan 18 05:29:29.645: %CAPWAP-3-ERRORLOG: GOING BACK TO DISCOVER MODE
*Jan 18 05:29:29.645: %DTLS-5-SEND_ALERT: Send FATAL : Close notify Alert to [ommitted due to security reason]:5246
*Jan 18 05:29:29.704: %WIDS-6-DISABLED: IDS Signature is removed and disabled.
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Jul 18, 2012
The ap 3502i has been registered to the wireless controller, but now want to restore the factory settings, repeated after the upgrade or will appear before the registration information of the wireless controller,
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Dec 4, 2012
We have a 2504 WLC and 8 352l AP. All AP are working and can be seen in the WLC except 1. It can grab an ip address but cannot see on the WLC. the show AP join...only shows that it is trying to join but no error indicated. A debug cap swap events didn't show the ip add.
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Dec 15, 2012
My 3502i suddently shutdown it's Radio interface and when I connect to it, I cans ee that the interface is shutdown. So tryign to enable it but the "configure terminal" command is not available. Is there any hidden command to go the priveledge mode?
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interface Dot11Radio0
no ip route-cache
shutdown
antenna gain 0
beamform ofdm
mbssid(code)
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Nov 15, 2011
How to upgrade C3502i to Lightweight? I failed to upgrade using Upgrade tool v3.4. The error message is "AP model is not supported" . how can I upgrade it?
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Mar 2, 2013
I have a WLC2106 and AP3502i. The issue that I am having is the radio for 5GHz is not showing up in "Wireless > 802.11a/n" (see attached screenshot) I am not exactly sure what was the problem. When I went to 802.11b/g/n I do see an entry for 2.4Ghz radio, but nothing on 5GHz.
I have the AP plugged directly to my 3550POE, and when I used the command "show power inline" it says that the switch is providing 15.4W and there is still 345W remaining on the switch. The LED on the AP is solid green. I issued a no shutdown on dot11radio1 and the status is up/up, but there is still no entry under "Wireless > 802.11a/n"
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Mar 7, 2013
how can i upgrade to Mini IOS Version 7.3.1.73 on the AIR-CAP 3502I. we some that have Mini IOS Version 7.3.1.73 and some that have Mini IOS Version 7.0.112.74. want them all the same.
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May 14, 2012
I have a newly purchased Aironet 3502i that I would like to configure on my network. I am new to Cisco networking in general, and would like to know how to configure the device to operate without a WLAN Controller.
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Jul 11, 2012
I've got a number of 3502i's that I need to mount in a new classroom that does not have any ceiling (except the floor decking above). Ceiling is roughly 30-50' up. Contractors are going to run several 2" (or whatever we want) metal pipes from the ceiling down to a more reasonable level to mount the access points on and get below the hvac ducts/etc in the ceiling.
Problem is I can't find any bracket or mounting options for this! What are others using in this situation for mounting one of these access points onto a metal pipe such as this? I've checked Oberon Wireless, Terrawave and I don't see anything glancing through the product catalogs. Anyone mounting access points this way?
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Sep 27, 2011
I mis-ordered some 3502i’s . They came with Mesh image by accident.
Can I just setup DHCP Option 43 TLV to point to my WLC, plug the AP in and have it change from Mesh to LWAP?
How do I switch from Mesh to LWAP without touching console?
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Jul 11, 2012
Recently I upgraded the wireless infrastructure in my campus and deployed WISM2 controllers and Cisco 3502i APs throughout the campus. Until now all my users were using 802.11b/g/a speeds without any issues. However, now I am trying to enable 802.11n speeds in a test group of users by enabling AES encryption and I am seeing lot of issues. These test users sporadically loose wifi connection and an asterix appears in the WIFI icon in the task bar. Interesting part is that all the manually configured wireless networks in the laptop stop displaying. The broadcasted SSIDs continue to show up though. All these users are using "Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6200 AGN" wireless cards with driver version 13.3.0.24. I had upgraded one of the client drivers to the latest 15.1 version. However, he still complained about wireless disconnection (I am not sure about this problem as I didnt personally attend his laptop to know the cause of diconnect).
One another interesting incident is that 2 people from this test group were having a meeting in a conference room once and surprisingly both dropped at the same time with the same symptoms. The only fix was to reboot their PCs.
I have done following changes in my controllers hoping that the problem would get fixed, But still no luck.
1. Enabled client band select.
2. Checked EDRRM for A as well as B/G
3. Changed Channel allocation from freeze to auto.
4. Enabled "avoid persistent interferers".
In my calls with Cisco support we also ran debugs in the controller and sniffer captures in the client machine. All we see in the controller is that the client dropped without any reasons. Also, didnt find anything significant in the sniffer captures. At this point not sure what to do. If upgrading the client driver is an option, then I need to produce some proof or document to the management which says the current 13.3.0.24 has known bugs to run 802.11n speeds. Scanned the entire internet, put a post in intel support site but no luck.
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Jan 16, 2013
I have a trouble with AIR-CAP3502I-R-K9 AP.I tried to upgrade IOS software in ap because it was connecting and disconnecting to controller too often. I already upgraded one of two access point and it working stable at this time, but the second one not. [code] So, I even can't load new software. What can I do now?
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Feb 20, 2013
Not sure why Cisco is shipping like this? It is a pain to mount them. Earlier we had option to slide out the Secuirty hasp.
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Sep 7, 2011
What is the maximum number of WLANs/SSIDs that can be configured on a H-REAP access point? I have a network with 3502i AP's, centralised WLC's in the data centre running 7.0.116.0, and WCS version 7.0.172.0.
I was successfully running 2 SSID's at a remote site, one SSID was configured for H-REAP local switching, dropping out to the local site VLAN X, and the other SSID was a central switching guest WLAN anchored to a WLC in a DMZ.I configured a third SSID at the local site running H-REAP local switching, and now I cannot see the guest SSID anymore, it does not appear to be broadcasting.Is there a maximum of 2 WLANs/SSIDs when operating in H-REAP mode?
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Oct 21, 2012
We recently had the Aironet 3502i APs installed in our infrastructure and are having a bad time with hosts connecting to them. The controller sees them, they have an IP, they are showing a solid green light, but you cannot get devices to connect. If you reboot the device you get about 5 seconds of connection and then it disconnects. The only cure seems to be rebooting the APs, but I am baffled why this keeps happening. The installer is blaming our devices, but it is happening to laptops, thin clients, and even cell phones. From what I've seen, everything works fine until, i believe, the device tries to refresh it's lease and is unable to do so.
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Jun 13, 2013
AP radio resets when the AP Multicast Mode IP is set 0.0.0.0 under the General Tab?
I rebuilt my lab controller and moved the management interface to a new subnet. Somehow, the AP Multicase Mode IP under the General Settings was removed. Afterwards, my AP's radios would reset every 2-3 minutes. After comparing my lab config to production, I noticed the IP was missing from that field. Setting the Multicast IP to 239.232.78.1 fixed the issue.
WLC 2504
AP 3502i
Code Version: 7.3.101.0
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