Cisco Wireless :: WAP4410N Not Improving Performance Even After Update
Sep 17, 2011
We have Cisco WAP4410N-G5 with firmware 2.0.4.2 and two notebooks with 802.11n adapters (Intel Centrino N130 and Ralink RT3090).Network scheme: Server 1Gbit LAN <> Gigabit switch <> WAP4410N <> notebooks. On server we have samba, http and FTP.We tried to download file from server via http/ftp and samba and the maximum speed we get about 23 Mbit/s. It is really very poor performance for 802.11n standard.We tried different firmware versions for WAP4410N and settings (20 and 40 MHz, N only and etc).We replaced WAP4410N with WRT610N and get about 85-100Mbit/s in the same enviroment.
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Nov 28, 2011
I currently upgraded to E3200 wireless router from my previous WRT610. I use itunes/apple airport express to play music located on a Buffalo NAS (LAN connection to E3200) on my home stereo. Before upgrading I was able to do this without a problem. Any suggestions for improving performance with streaming music at home? Internet/access to files on Buffalo NAS wirelessly works fine.
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Jul 12, 2011
I ordered a pair of WAP4410N to use as a bridge for a split office. So far they have worked without a hitch but the throughput is less than stellar and I was wondering what the recommended configuration was for best performance (and how much speed could be expected in general) out of these two? [code]
The two nodes are separated by about 25 yards across a parking lot with direct LoS to the other, placed inside a window mounted on the wall -elevated at about 10' so cars in the lot outside do not block visibility. At best the throughput I've seen is 1megabyte/sec, and that seems very slow/clunky to me for the 802.11n specification. Am I missing some setting, updated firmware, or physical setup (AC power instead of PoE for better antenna output maybe?) to have such limited performance?
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Apr 4, 2011
I am using 2 WAP4410N in bridge mode with WPA2 Security.The bridge seems to be stable but i get poor transfer rates.Distance between devices ~ 8m - nothing between.Wireless networkmode: N-Only, Channel: Auto, Channel Bandwitdh: 40MHz (also tried auto and 20MHz)Firmware 2.0.2.1 because got different problems with 2.0.3.3One side is connected to my LAN other is connected to a notebook.
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Jun 2, 2012
I have upgrade firmware of E1500 to latest release to version 1.0.04 and found out bad performance of the router QoS.
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May 14, 2011
Does CISCO offer a repair service where they would upgrade the hardware in my WAP4410N to the current version V02? Mine is the original version and has a lot of issues. It won't accept the current firmware version which reportedly solves some of these issues.
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Sep 23, 2010
I recently upgraded the firmware from 2.0.2.1 to 2.0.3.3 and when the router rebooted the interface was missing many items. On the basic setup page the boxes were missing to set the local ip address, subnet mask and anything below that. On the Wireless Security page the security mode box was half it's size and did not have any options in it. The wireless isolation wpa algorithm, preshared key and key renewal boxes were missing too. I rebooted the router and still got the same thing. I was able to get into administration and reset to the factory default. Once the router rebooted I was unable to get into the interface at all. It wouldn't come up at all. The power and light were blinking but I was unable to connect to it. I tried to connect with 192.168.1.245 and the one I had set manually but no luck with either. I was able send back the router for an exchange with Cisco. I received the new one today. It started up and everything worked great. I decided to try the firmware upgrade again. I went from the firmware version that was on there(I didn't right down) to 2.0.2.1 and the upgrade worked as the other 3 I have. I than tried the 2.0.3.3 upgrade and I got the same thing as the other router I sent back. I have 3 other routers in place that I will not be upgrading at this point. I should not have tried the upgrade again on the one today but being a bank the examiners like everything up to date and it's part of the monthly check.
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Jan 22, 2012
I read the sticky related to firmware updates. I have a DIR-655, that has been been giving me good service for quite a few years. I subscribe to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" philosophy as I have managed to keep my home network and computers running over the years, but I'm not knowledgable in these matters. I am still running firmware 1.10, and have not wanted to take a chance that if I upgraded I would find myself with numerous devices with no connectivity (running mix of Mac and PC desktops and laptops, XBox, Wii, Roku box, numerous iPhones and iPods, LG TV, and an iPad).
Recently I moved to the cable company phone, and they added a new modem. They have it set as a gateway (I think that is the terminology), and my network works basically as it did before. I have noticed though, that my Roku box, laptops, and skype on my Mac desktop seem to be having periods of slower download (Roku box), skype choppiness, and download that stop. I was thinking that perhaps if I upgraded the firmware, my performance might improve. After reading the sticky, it seems like firmware may not be the answer. This is a reliable but older piece of equipment, and now I'm thinking that I just need to upgrade to a newer and perhaps more advanced router.
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Dec 19, 2010
We have several 877 routers across a few cities and experience infrequent 'drop-out's which are typically characterised by log entries like the example below.
Our biggest problem is that there is a 60-90 second hard-down period rather than just a 1-2 second 'blip' ... and TCP etc. don't cope well with an outage of this duration.
In general the SnR etc. on the links is good and these occurances are quite rare but when they happen it can be very alarming for users and transactions can fail.
configuration (prefereable acheivable at the CPE rather than the DSLAM end) to work:
1. reduce the outage duration... can the interface be instructed to be less sensitive to temporary line noise and just 'suck it up' rather than resynching?
2. improve the stability of the line... perhaps at the cost of a reduced speed?
3. improve logging of the root cause of the interface going 'down'?
%LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Virtual-Access2, changed state to down%DIALER-6-UNBIND: Interface Vi2 unbound from profile Di1%LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Virtual-Access2, changed state to down%LINK-3-UPDOWN:
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Apr 30, 2011
I have the following equipment:
Cisco 871W router
2x WAP 4410N APs running 2.0.3.3
I currently have 1 AP connected to the router via copper. The AP to AP link is over 802.11. I have attached a diagram reflecting the current topology.
The AP-to-AP link will come up utilizing B/G/N mixed mode; however, the connection is basically unusable. About 30% of the traffic is dropped, while the packets that do make it have a consistently volatile latency, anywhere from 15 to 1500 ms. I have had success using G-only and B/G mixed. The link is stable (I have had the best results with B/G). The problem is, I didn't buy the 2nd 4410N to run the G protocol. I would like to connect the APs running either B/G/N (hopefully negotiating to N) or N only. I am wondering if there is a certain configuration I can utilize (perhaps using WDS repeater or bridge versus Wireless Client/Repeater?), or a firmware upgrade set for release that can make this happen for me.
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Nov 21, 2012
I have many 1262N and 1031AG APs. when the client is connected to the AP 1262N the performance is slower than it is connected to AP 1031AG (with more clients) in 2.4GHz.
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Feb 20, 2013
I am trying to brainstorm some ideas for the best wireless set up in a house that is 2 stories and 8500 SQ Feet. The house is wired with ethernet jacks.
Option 1. ASUS RT-N66U and Hawking Hi-Gain HWREN1
Option 2. Two Apple Airport Extreme's at either end of the house.
Option 3. Asus RT-N66U and Linksys WRT54G (DD-WRT Firmware).
What about the placement of the equipment? Should there be one router/access point on each floor or just two at either end of the house.
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Oct 30, 2012
1. WUMC710 data rates fluctuate extremly under OSX 10.8.2 with an iMac 27" . Meaning, one second, I have about 9 mb/s in the other second, I have 20 mb/s. It is fluctuating permenently. When I use another bridge, eg. ASUS EA-N66, the datarate is very stable and I can see no major fluctuation.
2. The overall datarate when using the WUMC710 with OSX is about 50% less, than with Windows7. I have windows 7 installed as a virtual machine on my iMac. When transfering a file to my NAS device, under OSX, I have an average datarate of 18 mb/s. When I transfer the exact same file with win 7 as a virtual machine on this iMac, I have 35mb/s on average!!!!! When I use another bridge, eg. ASUS EA-N66, the datarate is the same on OSX and on windows.
3. The low datarate and the fluctuations also appear in combination with an other router, so it must be something with the WUMC710. I tested it with the EA6500 and ASUS RT-AC66U.
What I have done:
- Tested with two other adatpers (ASUS EA-N66 and built in Apple Airport). Both show constant and high datarates, so the problems only appear with the WUMC710.
- Tested with another router. The low datarate and the fluctuations also appear in combination with an other router, so it must be something with the WUMC710. I tested it with the EA6500 and ASUS RT-AC66U.
- Tested with another OSX device. Same problems with an iMac 27" and with a MacBook Pro. So not a specific problem with one apple device
- Tested with another windows device. Under windows, the WUMC710 shows way better performance and nearly no flucuations in data rates.As I have tested other Wireless adapters, combinations with other routers and other OSX/Win devices and the problems are alyways the same, It must be a bug of the WUMC710. Performance under OSX 10.8.2 is slow and not constant.
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Feb 3, 2013
I just read that starting from version 7.4, the 2500 controller can be used to terminate guest anchor tunnels. have a question regarding the performance of the internal DHCP server when used in guest environments.
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Feb 6, 2013
I'd like to know your experience regarding how client count affects performance.
What I have seen in a university network, with a very high client densiity, using 3500 APs, is that around 55 clients ping reply time gets over 200 ms; around 60 users there's packet loss; then, as CC increases, somewhere between 60 - 70 the service gets totally lost. Off course, this depends on bandwidth consumption per user, interference, etc.
Also, I'd like to know what we could expect from 802.11ac regarding this topic. Is there any information on tests, or some estimation already published?
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Dec 5, 2011
We have two Cisco AP541N running our wireless network in the office. They're configured with the same SSID, so that people are automatically switched between the two access points depending on their location in the office.
Frequently we are experiencing very poor performance of our wireless connections and it seems to be related to when 4-5 clients are connected to one access point. After restarting it (which also moves the 5 clients to the other access point), the performance problem goes away for a while.
I've upgraded one to firmware version AP541N-K9-2.0(1) (the other is running AP541N-K9-1.8(0)), but it doesn't seem to work.
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Aug 24, 2012
I recently purchased an EA4500. It started out working really well, but recently I noticed that my speed on my iPhone and iPad has dropped significantly. When I'm in my office where the router is set up, I'm getting around 15 to 20 mb download speed and 5+ upload speed. When I go to my living room about 40 feet away my speed drops to 1mb down and less than 1 up. I expect to see a drop in my performance the further away I get from the router, but this seems really unacceptable to me.
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Jul 2, 2012
Just bought the EA4500, updated with the latest cloud firmware. but Wan performace is BAD. download with router 31.56Mbps, without approx 120 Mbps, tried changing MTU from auto to 1470 but no succes.
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Jun 30, 2011
Is this the best way to get maximum performance and coverage? I have a DIR-655 bridged to supply B/G on channel 11.I Gave Up On Linksys Firmware And Installed DD-WRT.
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Oct 9, 2012
The wireless connection barely registers in the Speed Test within Cisco Connect - .56 download, 5.35 upload. A cable connection gives 2.4 download and 5.5 upload. The E900 is not far from the computer with no obstacles between.Is the wireless portion of the E900 set up improperly? Is there anything I can do to improve the wireless performance?
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Apr 15, 2013
I have an AP1242 near a couple of conference rooms. I get complaints when we have a large contingent in there and some try to download documents. The bandwidth consumption is meage - less than 2Mbps. But there could be say 50 people in those training rooms. I see no errors at the FE interface on the AP but I do see a good number of Transmit Discards.
Are 50 users connected to an AP1242 simply more than should be expected of the device? 802.11g is the radio.
Are transmit discards indicative of some kind of configuration problem? The users in these cases are generally very close to the access point - within a few feet even.
If it is indicative of a configuration problem would that be an issue of the configuration of the laptop wifi cards or a problem at the AP?
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Jan 29, 2013
I'm using a wireless g router (f5d7230-4) which for most purposes is fine? Specifically: 1. I can't seem to stream media content from my windows 7 pc to my lg tv (model 55 lw 6500), and wonder if the age of the router is part of the problem; 2. some iptv channels on my ps3 are slow to load menus, though programs run fine when I push play (I gather ps3 is restricted to wireless g but if I upgraded the router I would plug in the ps3 using cat6). When I speed test my internet connection I'll typically get results around 2.5-5 Mbps. I'm impressed that a router of this age performs so well it isn't obvious to me that upgrading will improve the setup.
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Sep 28, 2012
I have EA4500 acting as a router on domainless all-Windows network of two XP machines.Unfortunately, EA4500 aggressively grabs the role of the Master Browser (I am talking about Computer Browser Service) on the network (regardless in which order you power the devices up) and then doesn't serve as a working Master Browser - both Windows machines stop listing the network computers in the "Network Neighborhood" and incur massive timeouts when attempting to view the listing.A quick look with 'browstat.exe status' reveals that indeed the router has announced itself as a Master Browser device, but returns errors when you query it.Quite predictably, without the router, both machinces figure out amongst each other who will be the Master Browser and everything works fine. The problems begin only when you add the router to the network.
1) Is there any way to make EA4500 work like a full-blown Master Browser (the one that not only announces itself, but also serves as such)? having a Master Browser integrated in "always-on" router would really improve the predictability of the network.
2) If not, is there any way to disable the Master Browser on EA4500? For now I managed to achieve that by assigning the router to different workgroup name, but this is lame, as I now can't connect a disk storage to the router and use it within the same workgroup.
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Oct 9, 2012
I've recently acquired a Linksys E1200 router--which is more than a week old--from the recommendation of a friend of mine. The service is great and all, but the one thing that frequently bothers me is the seeming constant instability of my router's model. There are moments when the router performs smoothly, but there is as much an instance because the router doesn't seem to work at all even when the lights (and the accompanying connection) on my modem seem to be working in good order.
I know that a router will always have its problems, but this is really a constant problem with the E1200; and if so, if there's any way possible on how I can be able to "stabilize" the said router's performance.
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Apr 19, 2011
I've bought a E4200 router because of it's "maximum performance". With the normal settings i have a wireless range of maximum 10 m in the building. after 5m I've got a low signal.I tested a cheap Netgear-router, which had the same range as the E4200 a 125 Euro.Is my E4200 broke or is it just a bad buy? The settings are standard (that shouldn't be the problem, I guess!?)
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Sep 21, 2010
Well, I sent mine back and they shafted me with a v1 unit.I don't see how you can know what the problem is and still send me a v1 unit.
I contacted SB support and they said no guarantees on getting a v2 unit.
Now I must PAY to send another unit back.With no guarantees, I don't know.
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Sep 29, 2012
I am backing up massive amounts of data to the cloud. Everytime I do this, the wireless performance on my EA4500 seems to degrade to half its throughput. I am using the 2.4 GHz band.
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Dec 4, 2012
I have a WAP4410N that stopped powering on with PoE. The PoE light comes on but the Power and Ethernet light remain off. The link light comes on the port on the switch. I have tried multiple switch ports and tried a different switch.
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Jul 20, 2010
I would like to ask for assistance on how to configure one unit WAP4410N access point to work as repeater to one unit WRT120N wireless router.
As a background, I had one WRT120N already in my house before I bought one WAP4410N as advised by a Linksys guy. I wanted to wirelessly extend the signal of my WRT120N wherever its signal is so low around my house. The WAP4410N should work as repeater to WRT120N.
I already configured WAP4410N to work as repeater by enabling all the choices in its wireless AP mode like the “wireless WDS repeater” and the “wireless client/repeater” but to no avail. I successfully setup a similar scenario before using the old pair of one WRT54G and one WAP54G. I replaced the old pair with the newer one ( WRT120N and one WAP4410N).
Is the tandem of WAP4410N and WRT120N can be configured technically as like as what I wanted? Do I need to upgrade the firmware of both devices? Did I miss something in the configuration?
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Jan 20, 2013
I need enable WPS function on WAP4410N. This is possible with CLI command #set wps enable. But how I can connect to WAP4410N with CLI?
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Mar 9, 2011
We have a WAP4410N as a Access Point and a second WAP4410N as a Wireless WDS Repeater. The settings are as of below.
We couldn't get the mobile users to get connected to the Access Point. But if we uncheck the option "Allow wireless signal to be repeated by a repeater.", it works.
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Apr 30, 2012
Router: Cisco WRVS4400N secured with WPA2WAP: Cisco WAP4410N . Router was working well but signal too weak in distant rooms. So, purchased a WAP4410N but am unsure about AP configuration. From reading the docs, I understand these to be the relevant choices:
1) Access Point -- Wired connection through built-in Ethernet port. (Not Desired)
2) Wireless WDS Repeater
3) Wireless Client / Repeater (What is difference from WDS Repeater?)
4) Wireless WDS Bridge
Desired Result:Simply extend the network. As a laptop is carried from room to room, laptop should switch to the strongest signal seamlessly, without user doing anything manually. No matter where I am, laptop should see entire network. Also, I prefer that the WAP not require a wired Ethernet connection (that is, I would like the WAP to receive/repeat the router's wireless signal No Ethernet Cable Required).
1. Which of the above 4 settings is best for achieving desired outcome?
2. What should the SSID be on the WAP? Same as on the router?
3. Should both the router and WAP be on the same channel? (I suspect not, but included docs sound like they should be..?)
4. Should both the router and the WAP have the same wireless security setting (WPA2) and pass phrase?
5. On the router, under the Wireless menu --> WDS sub menu there is a check box: "Allow wireless signal to be repeated by a repeater". I assume this must be checked?
6. I understand that Microsoft's built-in Wireless Zero Configuration service does not disambiguate APs which share the same SSID and may not always roam with the strongest signal.*** We need to move from area to area and seamlessly retain the network signal. Is this still a problem in Windows7? Is there a workaround for XP's WZC deficiencies?
Is there anything else I should know? [URL]
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Feb 7, 2012
We have two WAP4410N access points that are behaving identically. When connected without an ethernet connection, the Power light comes on and stays on. However, as soon as you attach an ethernet cable, whether it's attached to anything on the other end or not, the LEDs on the devices start blinking - first the Power light, then the Wireless light, repeatedly. They continue to do this, even when the ethernet cord is removed.
In addition to this, I cannot ping the IP, even when the WAP directly connected to a PC in the same subnet. I tried a hard reset, but I can't even ping the default IP.
Both WAPS have a very basic configuration. Neither of them are running upgraded firmware.
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