Cisco Switching/Routing :: 3750 - VLAN Flapping Error Message

Sep 15, 2012

I recently upgraded my network to have two 3750x core, one interface on the Cisco is connecting to a Net gear switch via a fiber converter. I am keep getting the vlan flapping error message in my log as below.
 
003396: Sep 17 01:46:16.328: %SW_MATM-4-MACFLAP_NOTIF: Host 5c0e.8ba7.0a5c in vlan 2 is flapping between port Gi2/0/15 and port Gi2/0/13
003397: Sep 17 01:46:19.843: %SW_MATM-4-MACFLAP_NOTIF: Host 5c0e.8ba7.0a5c in vlan 2 is flapping between port Gi2/0/15 and port Gi2/0/13
003400: Sep 17 01:49:58.769: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet2/0/17, changed state to down
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After my research i think this is a looping issue but I'm unsure how to address it.

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Cisco Switching/Routing :: Error Message Ports Flapping On 3750 Stack

Aug 27, 2012

I am receiving the following error message on a Cisco 3750 switch stack. Need troubleshooting this error message.

00:03:13: %SW_MATM-4-MACFLAP_NOTIF: Host 00d0.7400.2730 in vlan 600 is flapping between port Gi2/0/3 and port Gi2/0/2

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Feb 7, 2011

I have cisco switch model  WS-C3750G-12S-D. It is in transparent mode. I am getting below error message when tried to create new vlan.
 
Proposed configuration exceeds the limit of 1005 VLANs that can be supported on this platform. Reduce the number of VLANs proposed to be within this limit.
 
After deleting few unnecessary vlans, it allowed me to create.
 
3750#sh vtp statusVTP Version                     : running VTP1 (VTP2 capable)Configuration Revision          : 0Maximum VLANs supported locally : 1005Number of existing VLANs        : 959VTP Operating Mode              : TransparentVTP Domain Name                 : VTP Pruning Mode                : DisabledVTP V2 Mode                     : DisabledVTP Traps Generation            : DisabledMD5 digest                      : 0xBC 0xA7 0xEC 0xDE 0x36 0x6C 0x61 0xB4 Configuration last modified by 97.193.17.172 at 0-0-00 00:00:00
 
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Cisco Switching/Routing :: 3750 - Error Message While IOS Upgrade

Jan 6, 2013

Have a small stack of two 3750 routers.  Get the following error message every few secounds:
 
%STACKMGR-4-STACK_LINK_CHANGE: Stack Port 1 Switch 1 has changed to state DOWN
%STACKMGR-4-STACK_LINK_CHANGE: Stack Port 1 Switch 1 has changed to state UP
 
Now I replaced the stacking cables but no joy. It was ok for an hr or so but then the error messages popped up again. Also random links on this stack back to access layer user switches have been going up and down randomly. So I have decided to take the next step and upgrade the IOS.
 
 Although when I try and copy a new IOS I get the following error:
 
%Error writing flash:/c3750-ipservicesk9-mz.122-55.SE6.bin (No space left on device)
 
Seems this image is 130MB while the image that is currently on it is 74MB and free space is 54MB. How do I get the image onto the router? If I delete the current image from flash will that cause the router to stop functioning?
 
Also I noticed there seems to be more than one flash directory. See below:
 
copy tftp: ?
  flash1:         Copy to flash1: file system
  flash2:         Copy to flash2: file system
  flash:          Copy to flash: file system
  null:           Copy to null: file system
  nvram:          Copy to nvram: file system
  running-config  Update (merge with) current system configuration
  startup-config  Copy to startup configuration
  system:         Copy to system: file system
  vb:             Copy to vb: file system
 
The current router image seems to be in flash1 and flash 2 also. Could I delete the image from flash1. Upload it there and then boot the router from flash1?

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Cisco Switching/Routing :: VLAN Flapping In 3750x

Sep 22, 2011

I recently upgraded my network to have two 3750x core, one interface on the cisco is connecting to a Netgear switch via a fiber converter. I am keep getting the vlan flapping error message in my log as below.

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Apr 14, 2013

i have a question, i have in the logging of my switches a mac falpping problem. i have a log notification : Apr 12 19:33:13: %SW_MATM-4-MACFLAP_NOTIF: Host xxxx.f065.520c in vlan 25 is flapping between port Gi0/1 and port Fa0/35. When i look up what is connected to interface FA0/35 it is a accespoint " AIR-AP1242G-A-K9"  Cisco IOS Software, C1240 Software (C1240-K9W7-M), Version 12.4(21a)JA1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 
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Mar 11, 2012

I have an issue with a Cisco 3750 switch stack which is connected to two seperate upstream Cisco 3750's which are administered by an ISP.  The ISP is experiencing MAC address flapping from one of my VLAN SVI's i am using to route traffic upstream
 
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As you can see I utilise a VLAN SVI to route traffic to the upstream 1.1.1.2 (illustration only) IP.  As per the diagram of the topology attached, the ISP is receiving a MAC address flapping error confirming the SVI MAC address from my switch stack is being learnt on the trunk port connecting switch 1 and switch 2, and also the port (Gi1/0/48) directly connected to my switch stack. As these are all Layer 2 links essentially being passed upstream and then connected between the two ISP switches, we have a 3 way triangular loop formed.
 
If I was to remove the port channel configuration from the two ports associated with the VLAN SVI, am i right in suggesting this would still form a layer 2 loop?  The two ports would still be a member of the SVI VLAN, and it is the VLAN MAC address which is being learnt by the two ISP switches on different interfaces.

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An error appear in console (many times in one minute):
 
Jan  3 16:25:37: %LINK-3-BADMACREG: Interface StackPort1, non-existent MACADDR registry for link 0
-Process= "<interrupt level>", ipl= 4
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I get a unclear log entry in a VSS system.

Me_Kr #1        ME_KR_ERROR_CNT_LTL_PARITY_ERR_ITRP_0_0[01C8] : INTR= 0001 MASK= 0001
Me_Kr #1        ME_KR_ERROR_CNT_LTL_PARITY_ERR_ITRP_0_0[01C8] : INTR= 0001 MASK= 0001
Me_Kr #1        ME_KR_ERROR_CNT_LTL_PARITY_ERR_ITRP_0_0[01C8] : INTR= 0001 MASK= 0001
Me_Kr #1        ME_KR_ERROR_CNT_LTL_PARITY_ERR_ITRP_0_0[01C8] : INTR= 0001 MASK= 0001

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Jan 10, 2013

I have two networks at two sites with a dot1q trunk between the two L3 switches at both sites (no routers involved)
 
SITE A - Cisco 3750 L3 - VLAN ID 50
10.10.50.0/24
 
SITE B - Cisco 3750 L3 - VLAN ID 50
10.20.50.0/24
 
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Nov 20, 2012

We have a low bandwith (15-20 Mbit/s) to the ASA from our Client vlan. If i connect the Client to the same vlan as the ASA is, the bandwith (90 Mbit/s) is good.
 
Here are the Layer 3 Design:
 
Client     ->     vlan 2 - Switch - vlan 7     ->     vlan 1 - ASA 5505     ->     ISP
 
The Layer 2 Design:
 
Client     ->     Gig2/0/13 - Switch - Gig4/0/43     ->     Eth0/1 ASA5505     ->     ISP
 
IP Address:
Client: 172.16.2.10Vlan2: 172.16.2.1Vlan7: 172.16.7.1ASA: 172.16.7.2
  
I assuming the switch has a problem with routing ?It is a stacked Switch with following members:

switch 1 provision ws-c3750g-12sswitch 2 provision ws-c3750g-24tsswitch 3 provision ws-c3750g-24tsswitch 4 provision ws-c3750x-48
 
And we have following error message in the log from the switch:

%PLATFORM_UCAST-4-PREFIX: 

One or more specific prefixes could not be programmed into TCAM and are being covered by a less specific prefix, and the packets may be software forwarded I first get the idea that the switch is overloaded with router traffic. Thats why i assuming i have to check the sdm templates, but i'm not sure if this resolves the issue. 
 
Here are the relevant config:
 
ASA Interface on the Switch:

interface GigabitEthernet4/0/43description ASA-inside LANswitchport access vlan 7switchport mode accessspanning-tree portfast
 
Client Interface on the Switch:

interface GigabitEthernet3/0/1switchport access vlan 2switchport mode accessswitchport port-securityswitchport port-security aging time 2switchport port-security violation restrictswitchport port-security aging type inactivitymacro description cisco-desktopspanning-tree portfastspanning-tree bpduguard enable

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GigabitEthernet2/11 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
Hardware is C6k 1000Mb 802.3, address is 0009.11e4.f3ce (bia 0009.11e4.f3ce)
Description: RCPBSDEV
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- sshd[25799]

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Nov 12, 2012

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I only have found:
 
[URL]
 
which does not match reality : No one was configuring Vlans.

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Dec 17, 2011

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I have a quick query which i need ratified before proceeding.  I have the following scenario -
 
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VLAN 300
name PUBLIC
 int VLAN 300
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ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0  10.10.10.1
 
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Customer A - 10.10.10.4/30
Gateway IP - 10.10.10.5
Useable IPs - 10.10.10.6
 Customer B - 10.10.10.8/29
Gateway IP - 10.10.10.9
Useable IPs - 10.10.10.10 - 10.10.10.14
 
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Customer A
 VLAN 10
name CUST-A-VLAN
 int VLAN 10
ip address 10.10.10.5 255.255.255.252

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It is then up to the customer as to what equipment they use and how they NAT or firewall their internal networks.

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access-list 120 permit ip 192.192.10.0 0.0.0.255 access-list 120 deny ip 192.192.0.0 0.0.255.255 192.192.10.0 0.0.0.255access-list 120 permit ip any 192.168.100.0 0.0.0.255 192.192.10.0 0.0.0.255
 
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