Switch And Router On Same Subnet?
Dec 11, 2012
The ultimate setup thread mentioned only connecting routers together, and it would be cheaper (would it?) to get a new router and a switch instead of two routers of the same type.I admit I don't know much about networking. I tried Googling, but kept getting results about people asking what the difference between a switch and a router is, or how to set up two subnets on one router or switch.My current router is pretty old, its a V2 WRT54GS. I don't want to let it go but the lack of WiFi-n and Gigabit can get limiting, especially when sending large files across systems on a network or streaming video.However, I have another issue that wouldn't really be resolved by replacing it anyway, the fact that most if not all home routers have 4 Ethernet ports max. The amount of wired devices I use in the same area is increasing, and while I can switch some of them to wireless to make room for the wired-only ones, I would prefer not to. Some of these are multimedia or gaming devices and I would prefer the lower latency as well as higher LAN network speeds of Ethernet for them. I was told that I can connect a switch to my router and have everything act as if its on the same subnet.Will devices plugged directly into the router and those on the switch act as if they are on the same subnet and see each other without issue? Wouldn't this cut down on the speed of the devices if I have several plugged into the switch since they are sharing the single port the switch is plugged into the router with? Would it be better to get a switch with several gigabit ports and just plug everything into that for LAN speed? Its not like the WAN connection will come anywhere even close to 100Mbit, much less Gigabit, but would that still cause a bottleneck if several devices are trying to access the WAN over a switch that is plugged into a single port on the router, or no? Or would it be better to plug as many devices as I can into the router and the rest into the switch?
P.S. I use static IPs because I like to know which device has what IP to communicate with them directly if need be, and the WRT54GS has no way for my to reserve an IP based on port, MAC, or anything. Would that cause a problem? Is there any way to assign/reserve IPs on the newer routers (especially Linksys) with their stock firmware so I can switch to DHCP for guest devices?
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Aug 3, 2012
What I am trying to do is I have one switch with say a 10.1.9.1 sub-net I need to have one of the ports to be trucked with two vlans one for DSL and the other for a local connection with the sub-net of 10.1.5.1 both of the sub-nets are configured in the core as 9 and 5 so I have port 0 set up as a trunk and it is set up as ge-0/0/0.0 vlan_5, vlan_192 on the 10.1.9.1 subnet switch. The DSL is working but the local is not pulling a 10.1.5.1 IP and has no connectivity. Everything looks as if it is configured correctly but still the DSl is working but not the Local connection.
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Jan 4, 2013
I work for a small company and we just brought in a Juniper EX4200 switch so that we are able to test our SFP's and XFP's. I went through the EZSetup process however when I try to re-connect afterwards it just tells me that my subnet for the switch is different then the PC. I have tried assigning a static IP but that is not working for me either
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Sep 6, 2012
Have our public IP address space masked on /24 at our Internet Router. The router portion of 3845 connects to Internet, while the internal switch connects to my internal network and seeds it with the public address space. The switch had a port configured no switchport (L3) with an ip address with /24 (ie 67.63.145.1 /24) this connects to internal IPS/IDS then to Firewall which NATs to internal, then packet shaper, web filter etc etc etc. I need to test my ISP speed so I need to "break in" to the link between the switch and the IPS/IDS. I figured I could configure another port on the switch on the 3845 but my problem is the port to my network is routed and is masked on entire /24. I tried to configure a port on VLAN 1 and give myself an available address in the L3 address space and this did not work (figured it would not but gave it a try)
Any way to get two ports configured to use the same subnet while one is a L3 routed port and the other is just part of that layer 3 routed network?
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Jul 13, 2012
I want to calculate Subnet Mask for 3 Router Each one in separate building the First building need 60 host and the second building 25 host and the last one 25 host .
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Dec 22, 2011
I have a Belkin model F9K1102 router supplying WAN/LAN connection to three PCs and 2 laptops. Two of the PCs are hardwired with the remainder PC and laptops are wireless. I'm using the default router IP of 192.168.2.1 and my ISP is Charter Cable (if that's of significance). The router is picking up all the dynamic IP information from my ISP and internal DHCP is enabled. Here's the issue though - when I connect a PC, laptop or iTouch (wired or wireless) with obtain IP settings automatically enabled the IP address it receives an IP address on a different subnet ie, 192.168.3.x and thus won't have WAN/LAN connection. I have tried to set the router IP to 192.168.3.1 and set the scope in the .3 subnet but the IP obtained by the device is .4! This makes no sense to me at all. The router is on the latest firmware (according to Belkin) and there doesn't seem to be any other update I can find. I have also tried another Belkin router (older model: F5D8236) and it does the same thing.
I'm not sure if this is related but I upgraded my service with Charter to a 18MB connection and a D3.0 Ubee cable modem - this issue seem to have began after this upgrade but I don't see how that would have any bearing on what is happening on my LAN IP scope and Charter tech support is pretty useless. My workaround is that I've static assigned an IP for each device in the same subnet as the router but it would be nice for the DHCP to function correctly.
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I am using TP-Link wireless router model no. TL-WR941ND.my isp provided static ip via cable modem.ip = a.b.c.d subnet = 255.255.255.254 = /31 but the router does not support subnet mask saying wrong subnet mask?
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Mar 25, 2011
I currently have a network using ipaddress 10.1.x.x and 10.2.x.x and 10.3.x.x with a subnet of 255.0.0.0 I purchased 2 of the wrt120n wireless routers for testing and find I can not use the subnet of 255.0.0.0.
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Jan 17, 2011
I would like to the the RV042 for a one to one NAT, but I need it to NAT to an address that is not on it's local subnet. I have it routing properly to the address, but web interface only allows adding an IP on the local subnet. Is there a way around that?
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Jan 1, 2013
I have a linksys broadband router E2000 and a cable running from it to another location where I have a linksys WRTG2 V1. I would like the WRTG2 to be running in the same subnet as the E2000, but I seem not be able to get this done.
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I'm using my WRT320N as a home router, I need more ipadresses to be delivered to my computers, yet I can't get my router to give med wider netmask range. In the list I get 255.255.255.0 - 255.255.255.240 or something like that. I need 255.0.0.0 on my network and that would be perfect if i could get that...
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May 1, 2012
I'm trying to setup 2 subnet with two RV042 routers. One router will act as a gateway and both WAN ports will be used by two different isp connection. The first router (gateway) LAN IP will be 192.168.0.1/24.I would also like to set up another router behind the gateway with with separate subnet 192.168.1.X/24. And I would like clients on the 192.168.1.x subnet to use the internet through the gateway router and clients on the 192.168.0.x subnet to access resources on the 192.168.1.x subnet. Am I able to do this with two RV042?
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I was assigned a static block over PPPoE from the ISP. I can connect to the internet using the gateway address but I need to route the other static IPs to my servers. I might say that I accomplished it on a couple of older routers - E1200 & WRT120N, but I cannot get it to work on my new EA3500. I have 5 usable IPs plus the gateway IP that is assigned with the PPPoE connection on the WAN port.
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Oct 29, 2011
Due to the way I have my DSL and VOIP TA configured I need to be able to set the subnet mask in the Internet connection. I am currently using the Static IP, putting in an IP of 192.168.1.x with the subnet of 255.255.0.0 when I try to do this it gives me an error saying that 192.168.33.1/255 is reserved for the guest network. I am not using the 33 at all ANYWHERE. If I change the subnet to 255.255.255.0 it will save but I can't connect to the internet with it. My router I just bought today is the E2500 I have an old Linksys WRT model that worked fine with this exact setup for several years before it crashed on me.
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Apr 2, 2012
My issue is sharing a printer across my main Network and the wireless one, the description of the setting: I have my main Network 10.1.1.0/24 (RV082) and I hooked the wireless router E4200 at an IP 10.1.1.82 and the wireless network is 192.168.1.0/24 I setup a printer/scanner with an IP 192.168.1.72 for sharing on both Networks. Now everyone on 192.168.1.0 network is able to access and print but none on 10.1.1.0 I did put a static route on the RV082 to direct the requests for the printer to be redirected to 10.1.1.82 but no success.
The E4200 is setup by default out of the box I had just to set the static IP, Gateway and DNS and of course the wireless security key nothing else. the NAT is enabled on the E4200 and RIP is disabled, I tested the connection by disabling NAT and enabling RIP, at which I was able to connect to the printer but the Internet went down for All Wireless users (192.168.1.0 network)
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Block #2 - Not Working
209.91.**.146-158 /28
The problem I'm having is block #1's gateway is 209.91.**.129 and block #2's is 209.91.**.145
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I need to make some changes on our network. We currently have two sites 150 miles apart we join both by way of fiber and on each side we have Cisco 3750 stack switches, configure trunking for all V lans on one port in site one then through the the long haul fiber to site two with site one using 10.1.1.30 and site two using 10.1.1.40 as their default gateway, with static routing all V lan sub nets to the other sites default gateway life is good.
My question - seeing how we have sites using the same sub net 10.1.1.x to trunk all data to each site through switches; we need to now change the network and add each site to the MPLS network, site one switch 1 IP address 10.1.1.30 going to MPLS router one with FA0/0/0 using IP 10.1.1.31, site two having switch 1 IP address 10.1.1.40 going to MPLS router one with FA0/0/0 using 10.1.1.41. I need to know will this work.
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