Cisco Wireless :: WAP4410N Responding By Adding External Antennas?
Sep 21, 2010
I have not done the firmware for the units yet but have had only 1 outage thus far (but I think it was a power issue over the weekend).What I have done, 3 weeks ago, is put external antenna's on the 2 units which are 15 feet apart at 15dBi.The output is 40hz and I changed the latency time settings on the main unit, leaving the secondary at factory.This seems to be working for me so far. Usually goes down over the weekend and have to reset Mondays,but not this week. I am afraid of running the firmware because then it may become unstable again.
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Sep 22, 2011
My desktop PC which has an Asus PCE-N13 Wireless Adapter with two stock SMA antennas receives a very poor signal due to the significant distance between my desktop and the router.In order to improve my signal strength, I thought about buying better 3rd party antennas and specifically external ones which I could place closer to the router that connect to the SMA connections on my wireless adapter via a wire. There's many of these antennas for sale I see, but I'm unsure which is best suited for my situation.
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Aug 20, 2010
Is it possible to use external antennas on AP541N set in WDS mode? I would only need to use 802.11g mode 54mbps.I believe that the antennas shipped with the access points are removable RP-SMA.
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Feb 14, 2013
I have a question about external antennas on an access point. I have to plan a wireles solution, that also includes coverage in the industrial freezers. The freezers are one part of the sotck rooms, so the general coverage will be done with 1602I access points.
Since there are quite a lot of freezers in one location, installing separate AP in every freezer will be very expensive. I wondered if there is a possibility to put one 1602 access point with external antennas outside the freezer and then extend the antennas with 2m cables inside different freezers (1602E has three external antennas, so one antenna to each freezer).
Would this installation even work?
The freezers are quite small rooms maybe 2-3m2 sow the coverage is not a problem. But does this installation support multiple clients per AP in different freezers doing stocktaking with handheld terminals?
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Feb 25, 2012
We are running two WAP4410n devices in our office. One of the devices recently appears to have died. No ethernet, wireless, or POE lights passing packets, however the power indicator stays on steady. Have attempted a direct connection to the box straight from a computer with both straight and cross-over cables. Device will not even do a factory reset via the reset button.Device cannot be reached via web-interface either.
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Sep 21, 2010
I reconnected 4 laptops today on 2 different WAP4410n APs. The user will let me know if they get disconnected. Yesterday I even reflashed the firmward on them. Also in order to reconect to one of the Waps I had to cycle the power.
The laptops are different One is a Dell Latitude c840 w/ Links wireless card and the other is a IBM t41 i believe.
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Sep 21, 2010
Just bought 2 of these (wish I had seen this thread before). They shipped with the latest firmware already on them, so must be a very recent manufacture. I am having the exact same problems as above. It seems to be almost exactly 24 hours for me and the access point stops passing traffic. At first the latency goes very high (2200ms - 3800ms) right before it stops passing traffic. You can still ping the access point from the 802.11 side for a while, but nothing from the wired side, it just goes braindead. Once I was able to get the management interface up over the wireless while it was in this state and rebooted from the management side. It did not solve the issue, I had to unpower it and restart it (PoE Powered). I have only configured one of them due to these issues. I think they are going back. Here is how the access point arrived (yes, I just rebooted again for the 8th time).
Hardware Version:Rev.12Software Version:2.0.0.5Local MAC Address:00:13:60:FF:AF:F0System Up Time:0 hour:34 min:35 sec
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Feb 26, 2013
I recently installed six of the WAP4410N v2 models, firmware 2.0.4.2
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Sep 21, 2010
I have 13 WAP4410N and I have the same problem.
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Sep 21, 2010
After a day or so it just stops responding. I recently bought 3 of these to my office.
Running 2.0.0.5 etc.
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Sep 21, 2010
I have 2 of these in a Bridge between 2 buildings. Cisco support replaced them with 2 BRAND NEW units after 6 weeks of waiting, that do the same thing. Spent so many hours on these turds it is insane. the thing goes down with the wind, tinker with it and maybe you will be up for a few hours or days then back to down again. Thinking it has something to do with the firmware or a power saving thing. Works great when it is up though. I am still trying stuff to get it to work stable. To much money invested in them now to start from scratch but they wanted budget equipment in place and not Cisco Aironet.
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Sep 21, 2010
With over 45,000 views, something must be wrong. Like many of the others here, we can't work out what's wrong with our network and why the cisco 4410n behaves so badly.
Our experience is just like everyone elses. At some point in time, mainly between 1 day and 1 week, the router just stops responding. The problem appears to be on the LAN side, as quite often when it fails, the wireless is still active and clients are associated. Some time ago I was Cisco certified, so I have had faith in Cisco products. I also sold them for a living, which made it a natural choice, but I am struggling to come to terms with my purchase here.
I had tried:
All the latest firmwares from March until now (including the latest) Full resets of the device, including "reset to factory defaults" Pegging the autonegotiate to fixed 10/100 Changing channels on the wireless (although as mentioned, it appears LAN side issues)
This thread has given me different views. Other sites also talk about changing beacon settings, but I'm not sure that's the right way to go.I would consider syslogging the results and getting extended debug happening, but when the problem happens and the device hangs, LAN is lost so the messages are also lost.
I find it hard to believe that so many people can have this problem and no one at Cisco can reproduce the fault. So, here's a pretty simple network for Cisco to experiment with which clearly has the problem:
Flat GBit network
Dlink DGS-1016D 16-port GB switch (unmanaged)
4-5 wireless clients (mainly iPhones & iPad)
The volume of traffic is low - no huge file transfers. The expected uptime is between 3-6 days. As a matter of interest, I also tried POE to drive it using a TP-Link injector. The device worked perfectly, but the problem did not seem to be affected.
It might be heading towards time to log a call on this. I was hoping the vast number of existing callers would have given the support staff enough to solve the problem, but it appears Cisco is none-the-wise on the fault, let alone the solution.
As a matter of interest, maybe a good interrim solution would be for Cisco to use the watchdog timer to ping a known address and perform a soft-reset if the address (on the local network) did not respond after a period of time. This atleast would stop people having to crawl under desks and pull plugs to reset the device as it has no power switch.
I have a "Generation 2" device.
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Sep 21, 2010
I have the same problem with my two WAP4410N connected to my Cisco SRW2024 Gigabit switch.It appears that there would be a time where the PHY's between the WAP and the switch are hung.The lights on the Gigabit switch are constantly flashing.
It is until I disconnect and reconnect the network cable between the WAP and the Gigabit switch that the problem is momentarily solved. Then it seems like another high traffic usage of the WAP will cause the connection to hang. This solutions is totally unacceptable as I am not willing to open my wiring closet every time to fix this hang. Also I've lost precious data between my client and server because of this hang!
I don't think the problem is with the Gigabit switch as I have other Gigabit devices connected to it and I never get them to hang like the WAP.
I saw on the release notes (although the firmware has not been posted) that there is a problem with the WAP Gigabit PHY. From the release notes, it seems the firmware will have an option to take down the speed of the WAP Gigabit PHY from 1000BT to 100TX. This would be a shame if this is the final solution as one main reason for purchasing the WAP4410N is its Gigabit capability.
Being a networking PHY designer who had also worked on other Cisco products, I'm surprise that this problem had not been resolved in their qualification and interoperability lab.
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Feb 26, 2013
We have a situation with 20 4410N's They are connected through a 2960 switch. They runned for about a year with no problems. We use the WiFi system with 10 cisco wireless ip phones, several workstations (5-10) and a few mobile devices.
Three weeks ago we took 10-15 iPads in commission (almost equally divided over the AP's), since then the trouble started. Several accesspoints stop randomly responding a few times a, day. We updated to the latest firmware (2.0.4.2), but that did not solve the problems.
Were using 3 SSID's WPA2 encryption and fixed IP's for the AP's. If we can't get a hold on this we have to replace all the AP's by other ones.
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Feb 28, 2012
I would like to configure the below setup:
End user client (Cisco Any connect/VPN client) -> ASA 5500 (AAA client) -> ACS server -> External RADIUS database.
Here ACS server would send the authentication requests to External RADIUS server.So, i have added the external user database (RADIUS token server) in ACS under External databases.I have added AAA client in Network configuration (selected authenticate using RADIUS(VPN 3000/ASA/PIX 7.0) from the drop down.
Here how do i make ASA recognize that it has to send the request to ACS server. Normally when you use ACS as RADIUS server you can add an AAA server in ASA and test it.But here we are using an external RADIUS server which has been configured in ACS, so how do i make ASA to send the requests to ACS server?
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Apr 30, 2011
I have the following equipment:
Cisco 871W router
2x WAP 4410N APs running 2.0.3.3
I currently have 1 AP connected to the router via copper. The AP to AP link is over 802.11. I have attached a diagram reflecting the current topology.
The AP-to-AP link will come up utilizing B/G/N mixed mode; however, the connection is basically unusable. About 30% of the traffic is dropped, while the packets that do make it have a consistently volatile latency, anywhere from 15 to 1500 ms. I have had success using G-only and B/G mixed. The link is stable (I have had the best results with B/G). The problem is, I didn't buy the 2nd 4410N to run the G protocol. I would like to connect the APs running either B/G/N (hopefully negotiating to N) or N only. I am wondering if there is a certain configuration I can utilize (perhaps using WDS repeater or bridge versus Wireless Client/Repeater?), or a firmware upgrade set for release that can make this happen for me.
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Sep 18, 2012
I need to use 14Dbi patch antennas (like AIR-ANT5114P-N I use to have on AP1522) on AP 1552E. Is it possible?
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Apr 1, 2012
My customer wants to buy AIR1242AG with 2.4 GHZ antennas which are not ceiling mounted. How many 2.4 GHz antennas I can have on the AIR1242AG?
Can I have a recommendation which antenna I should use which is not ceiling mounted?
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Jun 30, 2012
I am expanding coverage in a big outdoor area.Most of the area is covered with AP1552 with AIR-ANT2506 5,2 db antennas.At the border of the area i have some masts where i can place ap's.Would it make sense to use directional antenna's there? I have a big open area where it is not possible to place ap's.The only placement is a mast in the middle of the area.I have a AP1552 with 5,2 db antennas there.Can i get better coverage if i place 3 or 4 ap's with directional antennas ?Or should i try with a 12dBi AIR-ANT24120 ?
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Dec 3, 2012
I am building a BOM for a customer and I need to present cheaper options than 3500 or 3600 APs. I thought of these two models but I don't know what models of antennas to pick.1602 is a 3X3 MIMO with 3 antenna connectors. How many 2.4 GHz and how many 5.8 GHz antennas should I pick for each radio?2602 is a 3X4 MIMO with 4 antenna connectors. In this case I suppose there are 2 connectors per radio.
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Mar 6, 2013
I´m trying to test anntenas in a AIR-CAP3062E-A-K9 the problem is that when I´m below the AP the speed is weak, the AP es with a WLC, so I was wondering if do you know a command or a form to test the anntenas or the Radio.
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Feb 25, 2013
I have an existing 1242AG AP in a remote location, I have full access to it. I have a new 1242AG that was ordered but the client forgot to order antennas for it. Is there a way I can find out the exact model of antennas that are connected to the in place AP at the remote location??
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Mar 21, 2012
1. Can the C1200 antennas work on the 1262 ?
2. Can the 2.4Ghz antenna work on the 5Ghz ports on the 1262 ?
3. The 1262 has 6 antenna ports (3 2.4ghz and 3 5ghz), can the (3) 2.4 Ghz antenna be used only as i only have antennas for the C1200 Access point which are 2.4 Ghz.
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Jun 19, 2012
I have a metal shop that needs wireless indoors and outdoors.
Will it work if I mount the 1262 inside with 4 indoor antennas mounted inside the building and 2 outdoor antennas mounted outside?
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Jul 16, 2012
We ordered 2 Cisco AIR-LAP1242AG-E-K9 Wireless Access Points with 4 AIR-ANT5135D-R antennas.We accidentally ordered the 5GHz antennas instead of the 2.4GHz antennas.Would it be possible to use the 5GHz antennas as 2.4GHz antennas?If so, are there any down sides to it?
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Nov 11, 2012
I would like to install three antennas (2450S) on some AP1261 that i wold spread out 10 feet apart. I am not able to get the antenna on the C connector to transmit. I am not using 802.11N. This is for a warehouse where all the WiFi devices are 802.11G. My question is: can you get all three connectors on the AP to transmit.
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Mar 15, 2013
What is the power rating of a 1552e mesh AP before the antennas are attached? I have the dual band 2.4 / 5 GHz antennas. I know their Db rating, but I have not been able to find what the AP is.
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May 25, 2012
I'm working in a campus environment that has an existing wireless network using a Cisco AIR-WLC2112-K9 controller.There are 8 AIR-LAP1242G-A-K9 access points connected to the controller. Each access point has a 5.0GHZ 4.5dbi Cisco omnidirectional antenna, although the AP only supports 2.4GHZ.
Q1. Why a 5.0ghz antenna might had been used with a 2.4ghz AP, and if we can expect increased performance if we replace the antennas with 2.4ghz ones?
Q2. On the controller, the antenna gain is set to 0 for each AP. Is there also a benefit to leaving that 0 as opposed to 9 for 4.5dbi?
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Apr 9, 2013
I am currently looking for informations about access point 2602e, more precisly about antennas.This AP have four RTNC connectors for external antennas, but I found these table into Cisco documentation: [code] When I see that, I understand that we only need, to transmit, three antennas with 2,4 Ghz (which is the only band we will use in a first time), but four with 5 Ghz.I also found these informations, in the same documentation:The 2602E models are configured with up to four external dual-band dipole antennas, and two 2.4-GHz/5-GHz dual-band radios. The radios and antennas support frequency bands 2400–2500 MHz and 5150–5850 MHz through a common dual-band RF interface. Features of the external dual-band dipole antennas are:
• Four RTNC antenna connectors on the top of the access point
• Three TX and four RX antennas
My question: with four antennas, we have three TX and four RX, is it for 2,4 Ghz, 5 Ghz or both?
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Aug 30, 2012
Antennas were set aside prior to device installation, and now can't be found. Can they be ordered as a replacement kit?
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Nov 10, 2011
I've got two RT-N16's one is a bridge and the other is the AP.I don't need an omnidirectional antenna on the AP because it is literally in the highest, farthest corner of the structure and a quarter-sphere signal would be perfect... I'm looking for some antennas to replace the omnis on it. [URL]
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Jul 2, 2012
My campground has a wi-fi antenna about 150 yards from my cabin. I wish to install a router with a higain antenna to access the internet from my cabin. If this is possible, could you tell me the type of equipment I'll need to purchase.
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Jan 12, 2013
My DIR-825 is not in an ideal spot so I am thinking of getting an extension cable for the antenna (probably for both), drilling a little hole in a wall and mounting the antenna in a more central location. It really is just on the other side of a wall, maybe 5 feet total for distance, but in an open area where the signal should reach more of the house.
Can I run a cable and attach the antennas five feet away from the device itself? Is there anything I should look for in an extension cable?
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