Cisco Wireless :: Aironet 3500 LAP Without Controller?
May 4, 2012
We have couple of Cisco Aironet 3500 Series access points with the following P/N: "AIR-CAP3501E-A-K9", we have discovered that we need a wireless LAN controller to connect those new access points!, however, we do not have any wireless controller in our LAN.
We even tried to CLI through the console port but we could not set any static IP on it!, after reading on Cisco site we discover that this type of AP is called "Lightweight Access Point" LAP which handles all the management tasks to the controller!
So what shall we do! is it impossible to operate them without the controller?
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Apr 6, 2012
how an AP 3500 get to be registered in a controller 5508??, so, i have seen a lot of information of wireles deployment guide but i haven't understood yet how the process or flow is for getting the AP to be registered in a controller 5508, what exactly basic configuration must be done in a controller for doing it?
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Jan 5, 2013
We are planning to implement Aironet 3500, Do we need to have controller to install it or can we install as standlone AP.
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Nov 21, 2012
links with information / guidelines for the initial setup for this Access Point?
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Sep 20, 2012
Can 2 Aironet 1042's using WDS handoff a session between them without any other network hardware needed?
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Aug 6, 2012
When I check the AP join statistics I see the following: Reason For Last Unsuccessful Attempt RADIUS authorization is pending for the AP, I don't run a radius server and don't know how to get around this so that the device can join.
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Apr 8, 2012
Cisco Aironet 3602I is stand alone or need a controller ?
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May 7, 2012
my access point 1230 fail to join the controller. The image is C1200-k9w7-mx.123-8.JA2. I tried to reboot it but it does not join to controller. How do I initiate the discovery process again to make this AP to join? Should I convert it back to autonomous AP and then LWAPP process again? I can ping the AP from the controller and the AP is in the same VLAN with controller.
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Oct 8, 2012
Is it possible to set an Aironet 1232AG-A-K9 as a repeater while still using a 4402 controller? I have some wireless security cameras in our parking lots that I need to extend wireless to and I have a handful of 1232 points that I am not using. I have some omni antennas and a yagi directional that I was planning on using.Everything I am reading talks about configuring the AP while in automous mode, not while running the lightweight image.
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Dec 5, 2012
Can I connect various Aironet 1242 to Wireless controller 2500?
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Mar 19, 2013
I've recently purchased a 2504 Wireless controller, and I have 10 2600 APs to deploy. I think I've set up the wireless controller OK - there doesn't seem to be much that needs to be done! But I just can't seem to register an AP onto the system.
Just to briefly outline what I have done, I have connected to the Wireless Controller via terminal emulator and run through the setup, then I have connected OK to the web interface, and I am able to view and amend the controller's configuration. So I have setup a WLAN and thats about it.
Next up I have powered on one of my 2600 APs, and I am able to view it working via terminal emulator again. But I am seeing it continually running the same routine to connect to a controller, and all the time it just fails. Below is what I am seeing.
One thing that I am unsure about is that I am unable to connect to the AP config pages via web browser, using the IP 192.168.0.97 (although it does ping okay). Is that odd?
And the main question - why doesn't the AP connect to the wireless controller? Do the APs need to be authroized on the controller first? If I check the controller's web interface, under Monitor - Statistics - AP Join, I can see the AP listed with Status "Not Joined" but I don't know what I need to do to make it join!
*Mar 1 02:28:54.579: %CAPWAP-3-DHCP_RENEW: Could not discover WLC using DHCP IP. Renewing DHCP IP.*Mar 1 02:28:57.583: %CAPWAP-3-ERRORLOG: Invalid event 38 & state 2 combination.*Mar 1 02:28:57.651: %DHCP-6-ADDRESS_ASSIGN: Interface BVI1 assigned DHCP address 192.168.0.97, mask 255.255.255.0, hostname APb0fa.eb56.5abf(code)
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Dec 1, 2010
I would like to buy Cisco Aironet 1260 Access Points, i just want to use them independantly so i want to know do they work without the Wireless LAN Controller? or i have to have the controller for them to work? they will be in different locations so i cant have a controller per each location.
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Mar 16, 2013
I have installed/setup a cisco 2504 wireless controller and 3 aironet 1142 access points using the basic config on a windows sbs 2008 domain, the problem is that the clients that are connected to the 2504 aint getting the there ip addr from the AD but from the wireless controller, and there cant reach the clients on wifi from the clients that are connected to lan, is there anyway that i cant change this so that a client on lan can see the client on wlan and vice versa.
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Apr 3, 2012
Can I configure Multiple SSID (Guest/Corporative) on Cisco Aironet 3600i AP via Cisco 2504 Wireless controller?
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Nov 30, 2011
if i can configure the cisco aironet 3500i without WLC controller.
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Mar 6, 2012
Can Controller 4400 series work with Aironet 3600 series?
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Jul 18, 2012
I am trying to config my wireless lan controller (WLC) 2106 to discover my new 3500 access points.I followed the example Cisco configuration doc.69719.I am using a Cisco 3760 switch to interconnect the AP and WLC.I set up DHCP in the switch. [code]
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Jul 1, 2012
The problem am having is that my Users can get to the internet on the LAN but cannot get to the internet thro the WLAN. Below is the cisco equipment used to setup the WLAN and LAN. I dont have any clue as to why users cnnot get to the internet from the WLAN except the LAN.
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1.
CISCO CATALYST 2960-S
Part Number: WS-C2960S-24PS-L
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Part Number: CON-SNT-2960S2PS
10
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May 14, 2013
So I'm going to bridge two Cisco AP's 1260 and 3500, which have an 880 router on each side.
(Currently I have a VPN set-up through the internet for the two locations to communicate) (Naturally they are currently in different subnets) Will absolutely change this and set up as one subnet. There is VLANs setup on each router (same VLANs)
VLAN 1
And
VLAN 10
Everything is configured on the Routers and AP's for these VLANs (works flawlessly over the VPN).
So now since I’m going to get rid of the VPN and set-up a bridge with two AP's, will having same VLANs across both routers be a problem? Will VLANs work OK through the bridge?
Besides using (IP helper address DHCP-IP) command on the non-root bridge side router to forward DHCP requests to the root bridge side router, Also I want to be able to route internet traffic on the non-root bridge side through the WAN port, and only route LAN traffic through the bridge..
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Feb 9, 2012
We have had several APs disassociating from our controllers. The alerts say, Message: Access Point 'AP-xxxxx' associated to controller '10.x.x.x' on port number '0'. Reason for association 'Dot11g Mode Change. I have read several posts that point out that you should have QoS implemented to prioritize the CAPWAP traffic. I'd like to know if someone has implemented QoS and whether it has been successful in stopping the APs from disassociating. And if it has been successful do you have any configuration examples for the ports attached to the AP and controller as well as the QoS configuration?
We have several sites with AP1142's and 3500's. We have 2 5508 controllers. We are broadcasting 2 SSIDs of which one is in HREAP mode and the other is in local mode. Each of our sites have MPLS circuits.
Here is an example I found on Cisco which I believe can be used for CAPWAP as long as you change the ports to 5246 & 5247 instead of 12222 & 12223.
Example Router Configurations #
This section contains router configuration examples to be used as guides when addressing CS6 remarking or LWAPP control traffic load.
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This example uses LWAPP APs on the 192.168.101.0/24 subnet, and two WLCs with ap-managers at 192.168.60.11, and 192.168.62.11. (code)
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Aug 12, 2012
I know that the 3600 series APs are not supported on the 4404 WLC. However, would the following scenario be supported? I would like to use the 4404 (software rel. 7.0) as a guest anchor with a 5508 (software release 7.2) as the foreign controller supporting series 3600 APs. I ask because the APs do not need to join the guest anchor.
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Jun 2, 2013
We have a customer that have 2 5508 as primary and backup controller and a 4400 as an anchor controller. We plan to upgrade the 5508 to 7.3.112.0 and the 4400 is already 7.0.116.0. Will there be any issue if the anchor controller is not the same code as the foreign controller? Do I also have to upgrade the acnhor controller to 7.0.240.0?
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Mar 31, 2013
We are trying to navigate the waters in choosing between a in-house, controller-based, wireless network solution or a cloud-based solution. We have been presented with the usual suspects in cloud-based (Aerohive, Meracki, etc) and with Cisco (5500) and Aruba on the other side. We are a multi-campus organization with approx. 200 APs.Any hard reasons why go with a controller-based vs. cloud-based solution? If we must keep the conversation limited to Cisco, why go Meracki over Cisco's WLC solutions or vise versa?
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Dec 6, 2012
I am looking to configure a wired and wireless guest network. I have industrial barcode scanners that connect to one SSID and then there is the business network on the office SSID (no vlan seperation for these devices just different SSIDs). There is not really a need to seperate the business network from the scanners in any case. However, there are needs for a guest network and this needs to be seperated. At the bare minumum I would like to have the wireless guest network. Here is what I have: 2125 Wireless LAN controller managing 18 LAPs (1 indoor and 17 outdoors)Cisco Cat 2950 switches (2 x 24 port and soon to be replaced with 2 x 48 port 2960's with 802.1x capability) Sonicwall TZ210 firewallOne existing wired and trunked vlan for PLC infrastructure. One ESXi hosting Windows server guests (soon to be 2 with vMotion) The reason for the wired guest access network is tp prevent anyone from plugging into the wall jack in the office with thier home laptops or anyone else from being on the same subnet as our domain machines. Granted they would be unathenticaed but there would be no layer 2 seperation and that is what I think would be best.
How would I go about doing this on the wireless controller without an anchor controller just using my existing hardware? I would like to have the Guest SSID only availible in the front office. Is it possible to offer a guest network while still servicing the business network SSID on the same access point? Then might I be able to have the guest network be treated as it should at the controller? However this might present another issue altogether as the guest traffic will be over the same wire as the business SSID until it hits the controller for management.
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Dec 3, 2012
I am building a BOM for a customer and I need to present cheaper options than 3500 or 3600 APs. I thought of these two models but I don't know what models of antennas to pick.1602 is a 3X3 MIMO with 3 antenna connectors. How many 2.4 GHz and how many 5.8 GHz antennas should I pick for each radio?2602 is a 3X4 MIMO with 4 antenna connectors. In this case I suppose there are 2 connectors per radio.
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Jul 4, 2012
I currently have WLC 5508 and a few campuses with LAP 1142, each with 2-3 vlan. Now one of our campuses have a building thas is a bit far away and needs network (wired). We can't get fiber or TP-cable there in a good way. So the plan is to get two 1262 or 3500 with AIR-ANT5160NP-R antennas and get a wireless link working between the campus and the building. And then connect one of the AP's to a switch in the other building to provide it with wired network.
The problem is that I can't find information on how to do it. Should both APs be in autonomus mode? I probably only need to have 1 VLAN in the other building but I am not sure yet. Is there a problem with transfering several VLAN over the WLAN-link?
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Mar 3, 2013
Just had some more 3500i installed,but 2 of these seem to be working, but there is no green LED when no connection, and when you conneect there is no blue led. The LEDs to change when rebooting the AP, just neve seen this before, is this a fault?
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Dec 30, 2012
I have upgraded my 'old' Linksys router to a new Cisco 3500 and I can only connect to the new router via Wi-Fi... When I connect using hard-wire - the computer tells me I hve no connection! Same computer works just fine w/old router
Dell Inspiron duo - Windows 7 - Cisco 3500
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May 2, 2012
We are deploying a new office and exploring the options for WLAN deployment. We were pretty impressed with 3500 series APs and that it supports CleanAir.However, we have decided to go for standalone AP deployment model now. As 3500 does not work in standalone mode, so we are looking for APs that can work in standalone mode ( and later can be converted to lightweight if needed). We can go for 1140 in that case. However, it would be better for us to know the main differences between features supported by 3500 lightweight AP and 1140 standalone AP. CleanAir looks like the main one. Are there other important ones as well?
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Jul 12, 2012
I have problem with this 2 AP model 3500i out of 140 APs. below is my finding:-
1. Suspected AP froze with bright white light and dissociated from controller
2. After bounce back (shut / no shut) the port, its working as normal
3. In a while, its repeat to (1.)
4. Direct console to the AP, no output is seen.
From NCS & controller log, its only show as below:
AP 'TTR13-A03AP0076' disassociated from Controller '10.209.116.16'
AP 'TTR4-A02AP0014' disassociated from Controller '10.209.116.15'
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Nov 1, 2012
Would like to check out some client side setting on Wireless 802.1x authenticaiton.
Network setup is using
- Cisco WLC 7.2 and AP3500,
- ACS 5.3
- Microsoft Windows server 2008 hosting AD and CA services (same machine)
- Client OS is Microsoft Window 7.
Authentication mehtod would use PEAP-MSChap V2 Combo.
My question :
01. In AD environment, should ACS 5.3 be part of the domain computer?
02. To have secure connectivity, IF the security policy force client to check "Validate server certificate", which certificate it is look for? Is it ACS's identity certifate, that require CA server to sign on the CSR?
03. Back to client side, should the client also need to import this certificate in trusted root certification authorities?
Or the client will trust ACS identity certificate against the root CA certificate store at client's trusted root certification authorities, where they have the identical issuer?
04. Extra question: If no CA environment, would it be sufficient simply export ACS self-signed certificate and import to client computer, and it's trusted?
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Feb 8, 2013
Lost my access points to controller. Not sure if it was related to upgrade from 7.1 to 7.2, or something else.
The console log on APs shows;
*Mar 1 00:01:09.394: %CAPWAP-3-ERRORLOG: Go join a capwap controller
*Jan 1 10:24:23.000: %CAPWAP-5-DTLSREQSEND: DTLS connection request sent peer_ip: 142.100.64.8 peer_port: 5246
*Jan 1 10:24:23.424: %DTLS-5-ALERT: Received FATAL : Certificate unknown alert from 142.100.64.8
*Jan 1 10:24:23.424: %CAPWAP-3-ERRORLOG: Bad certificate alert received from peer.
*Jan 1 10:24:23.424: %DTLS-5-SEND_ALERT: Send FATAL : Close notify Alert to 142.100.64.8:5246
*Jan 1 10:24:23.424: %CAPWAP-3-ERRORLOG: Invalid event 38 & state 3 combination.
All 3500/3600 APs, had been in production for months.
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Feb 6, 2013
I'd like to know your experience regarding how client count affects performance.
What I have seen in a university network, with a very high client densiity, using 3500 APs, is that around 55 clients ping reply time gets over 200 ms; around 60 users there's packet loss; then, as CC increases, somewhere between 60 - 70 the service gets totally lost. Off course, this depends on bandwidth consumption per user, interference, etc.
Also, I'd like to know what we could expect from 802.11ac regarding this topic. Is there any information on tests, or some estimation already published?
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